Normal subgroup of prime order in the center

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The problem involves a normal subgroup H of prime order p within a finite group G, where p is the smallest prime dividing the order of G. The objective is to demonstrate that H is contained in the center Z(G) of the group.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss properties of normal subgroups and their implications, including the cyclic nature of H and its abelian property. There is exploration of the normalizer and its relationship to the group G. Some participants question whether the conditions imply that H must equal G, while others consider the implications of H not being in the center.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various lines of reasoning being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the properties of cyclic groups and normal subgroups, while others are questioning assumptions and interpretations of the problem setup. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive ideas are being shared.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the Sylow theorems are not to be used in this context, which may influence the approaches taken. The smallest prime condition is also a significant aspect under discussion.

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Homework Statement



Let H be a normal subgroup of prime order p in a finite group G. Suppose that p is the smallest prime dividing |G|. Prove that H is in the center Z(G).

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the Class Equation?
Sylow theorems are in the next section, so presumably this is to be done without them.

The Attempt at a Solution



Not completely sure of a solution, but here's (at least some of) what we know:

1. Since H is normal, [tex]ghg^{-1} \in H[/tex].
2. Since [tex]|H|[/tex] is prime, [tex]H[/tex] is cyclic and abelian.
3. [tex]G[/tex] is finite, with order [tex]|G| = p^nq[/tex].
4. The normalizer [tex]N(H)[/tex] (stabilizer under conjugation) is all of [tex]G[/tex]...
5. ...so [tex]|G| = |N(H)|[/tex] ??
6. Probably some more relevant properties.

And we want to show that [tex]H \subseteq Z(G)[/tex], i.e. [tex]H \subseteq \{g \in G | gx = xg \forall x \in G\}[/tex]
 
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So would these things imply that H = G is cyclic, thus abelian and is the center?
 
Well, from the facts you've given, since H has prime order, it's cyclic, and every cyclic group is abelian. Now since H is normal, like you've also shown we have

[tex]ghg^{-1} \in H[/tex]

It can quite easily be shown that this is true if

[tex]\forall g \in G[/tex] [tex]\forall h \in H, gh \in Hg[/tex]

that is, [tex]\exists h' \in H[/tex] such that

[tex]gh = h'g[/tex]

but H is abelian so...make some conclusion.

Since this holds for every member of H when applied to every member of G, the result follows
 
I misinterpreted the problem. i was thinking of G acting on H, as a subgroup, and not of G acting on H element-wise, by just permuting the elements around in H.

this means if H was not in Z(G), then its orbit would have order 2,...,p-1, none of which divide |H| and |G| since p is prime and it's the least prime that divides |G|.

i believe this does it.
 

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