NSF grant strategy advice for my 2-year school

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of initiating a grant similar to one awarded by the NSF at a two-year school. Participants explore the potential for collaboration, the role of faculty in grant writing, and the relevance of existing grants to the inquirer’s situation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that for a new grant to be pursued, the lead investigator must be a faculty member at the school.
  • Another participant questions the appropriateness of reaching out to the current grant holder for advice, framing it as potentially competitive.
  • There is mention of the importance of having an experienced grant writer involved, particularly in educational contexts.
  • Concerns are raised about the relevance of the details regarding the existing grant, with one participant noting discrepancies in the number of principal investigators involved.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the inquirer's intentions, emphasizing that the funds are not for personal use but rather for broader educational purposes.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the actual authorship of the grant proposal and whether further proposals are being submitted.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the inquirer's specific interests regarding the grant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach for the inquirer to take regarding grant writing and outreach. Multiple competing views remain about the feasibility and appropriateness of contacting the current grant holder.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the inquirer's goals and the specifics of the existing grant, including the role of principal investigators and the potential for future proposals.

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I've been out of school for over a year because of some drastic physical health garbage, and I'm thinking about going back in 3-6 months, to a 2 year school. One of the schools a little further down from me has a big grant from NSF;

https://www.ucc.edu/academics/acade...nd-mathematics/infusing-research-as-pedagogy/

https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1832425

Now, the NSF website has 2 interesting details;

1) Seems to say the entire grant has already been disbursed.

2) Seems to say on the school's end there was basically one responsible party.

It's not totally out of the question for me to go to that school; I'd just strongly prefer not to, mostly for logistics reasons. So, I was wondering if it was a realistic goal to get something like that going at my school. Tactically, does it make any sense to reach out to this person (via LinkedIn, as a first approximation) and solicit her advice?

Many thanks in advance for any hints

Joe
 
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theycallmevirgo said:
if it was a realistic goal to get something like that going at my school.
Sure, but the lead investigator needs to be on faculty.
theycallmevirgo said:
does it make any sense to reach out to this person (via LinkedIn, as a first approximation) and solicit her advice?
"Hi, I want to be your competitor. Please share your secrets."
 
theycallmevirgo said:
So, I was wondering if it was a realistic goal to get something like that going at my school.
I'm not familiar with grant writing for education/research projects, but in public safety grant writing, there is typically an experienced person who is a specialist in writing grant proposals. It might be a valid inquiry on your part to ask your 2-year school if they have a person who is writing grant proposals...
 
theycallmevirgo said:
I've been out of school for over a year because of some drastic physical health garbage, and I'm thinking about going back in 3-6 months, to a 2 year school. One of the schools a little further down from me has a big grant from NSF;

https://www.ucc.edu/academics/acade...nd-mathematics/infusing-research-as-pedagogy/

https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1832425

Now, the NSF website has 2 interesting details;

1) Seems to say the entire grant has already been disbursed.

2) Seems to say on the school's end there was basically one responsible party.


It's not totally out of the question for me to go to that school; I'd just strongly prefer not to, mostly for logistics reasons. So, I was wondering if it was a realistic goal to get something like that going at my school. Tactically, does it make any sense to reach out to this person (via LinkedIn, as a first approximation) and solicit her advice?

Many thanks in advance for any hints

Joe
<<Emphasis added.>> I'm not sure what the relevance to you and your future plans of these "2 interesting details" are . Also, with respect to Detail 2), the second link you provided states that there are currently 2 principal investigators and 4 former principal investigators. Are you aiming for funds dedicated for your sole use?
 
CrysPhys said:
<<Emphasis added.>> I'm not sure what the relevance to you and your future plans of these "2 interesting details" are . Also, with respect to Detail 2), the second link you provided states that there are currently 2 principal investigators and 4 former principal investigators. Are you aiming for funds dedicated for your sole use?
My point re 2 interesting details being, this woman knows how to write grants and she's no longer competing with me (as far as I can tell) so she may be willing to share strategy.

ETA: and no, absolutely they are not for my sole use.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Sure, but the lead investigator needs to be on faculty.

"Hi, I want to be your competitor. Please share your secrets."
See response to CrysPhys
 
theycallmevirgo said:
My point re 2 interesting details being, this woman knows how to write grants and she's no longer competing with me (as far as I can tell) so she may be willing to share strategy.

ETA: and no, absolutely they are not for my sole use.
You don't know whether it was in fact a single person who wrote the grant proposal. And you don't know whether in fact they have submitted subsequent proposals or are in the process of submitting subsequent proposals.
 
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I don't really understand your goal here. From your first post it sounds like you're a student? What about this grant are you interested in exactly?
 

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