Nuclear Engineering at Florida Power and Light

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The discussion revolves around the potential career path in nuclear engineering, specifically regarding a training program at Indian River State College aimed at preparing students for positions at Florida Power and Light (FPL). Participants explore the implications of starting as an operator or technician versus pursuing a more traditional academic route in engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • Zack Groothouse expresses concern about the nature of jobs available through the program, fearing it may lead to a role focused on operations rather than engineering.
  • Some participants suggest that starting in operations can provide valuable hands-on experience, which may inform future engineering work.
  • There are warnings about the bureaucratic and political challenges within large power companies like FPL, which could affect job satisfaction and career progression.
  • One participant notes that while many graduates from the program have found jobs, past performance does not guarantee future employment opportunities due to industry fluctuations.
  • Another participant emphasizes that most individuals in the nuclear industry are not nuclear engineers and that many engineers may not engage in nuclear engineering tasks.
  • There is a suggestion that pursuing a mechanical engineering degree might offer broader opportunities and flexibility in the job market compared to a specialized nuclear engineering degree.
  • Zack inquires about the feasibility of completing core classes at a state college before transferring to a university for further education in engineering.
  • Participants agree that transferring credits depends on the policies of the university to which Zack plans to apply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the value of the training program at Indian River State College. While some see it as a viable starting point for a career in nuclear operations, others caution that it may not lead to a role as a nuclear engineer. There is no consensus on the best path forward, with differing views on the merits of academic versus operational routes.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding the specific job market and the potential for job roles to differ from training. Concerns about the transferability of college credits and the impact of industry changes on job availability are also noted.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in pursuing a career in nuclear engineering or related fields, as well as those considering educational pathways in engineering, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello,

My name is Zack Groothouse. I am new to this forum, although i have read the forum rules, please forgive me for any rules i break, or mistakes i make in my statements. I just recently graduated high school (2 weeks ago to be exact) and I am aspiring to be a nuclear engineer. I would like to start my career working on nuclear systems and maybe work my way up to perhaps work in labs and create new nuclear systems. My local college is offering a program that trains students to work at Florida Power and Light. I am afraid it will just be an operator or technician job where I would just be staring at meters and pushing buttons all day. Here is a link to the website (http://faculty.irsc.edu/dept/advancedtechnology/EPT/typical.html ). I was hoping some of you could give me some insight on whether I should join this program or opt out and perhaps look at other colleges that would lead me into the nuclear engineering industry. Please keep in mind, money is an issue as I am not too keen on taking loans out for college, if you could refer any programs or schools that would be most economical for me that would be much appreciated. I realize college is going to be expensive but I would like to be as frugal as possible. Again please forgive any errors I made.
 
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If you can stand the mind numbing bureaucracy, the insanely stupid politics, and the boring times punctuated by moments of terror, you'll do well.

Seriously, the button pushing and operations of nuclear power plants is a good place to start with a hands-on view of what nuclear power is like. Then when you know what works and what isn't so good, you can think about building better systems. You will not learn this in a strictly academic program.

In general I pity those who go to engineering school for four years and then march right up to a company and expect a job. They don't know much. It would be no different than some MBA going into a company knowing nothing about what it does, and telling them how to make money. Riiiggght.
 
Thank you very much. I will take that into consideration
 
You should be aware that FPL has bought up a bunch of generating capacity. Here in Maine, they bought up dams and other power generators, and Central Maine Power has retained possession of transformers transmission line etc. Depending where you end up with FPL, you may end up in an area in which the generation facilities do not match your training/skills.
 
As far as I am aware the program would be training me specifically for nuclear due to Indian river state college being in fort pierce along with an fpl nuclear plant. I think everyone that was trained in the program was hired at either the plant here or other nuclear plants but I'll ask about it before I apply. thank you
 
Groothouse said:
I think everyone that was trained in the program was hired at either the plant here or other nuclear plants but I'll ask about it before I apply. thank you
You're welcome, though be aware that past performance is no guarantee. Very large power companies like FPL can have internal pressures that moot their stated intentions. For instance, the nuclear power industry in New England has collapsed, and engineering specialists transferring here might have to have to transition to specialties in steam-generation, turbine efficiency, etc. Good luck to you, no matter what you decide. :smile:
 
Thank you
 
Groothouse said:
Thank you
I'm happy to help, if I can. As a process chemist in the pulp and paper industry, I had some supervisory duties with regard to power co-generation, and lots of stuff changed over the years. Some changes were good - some were less so.
 
That program sounds like a good thing if you want to be an operator at a power plant. If you work hard enough and have enough talent, you might be able to move up to a senior reactor operator and on into management eventually. You won't become a nuclear engineer that way though. It pays well though.

If you want to "work in labs and create new nuclear systems" you will probably have to go the academic route: BS in Engineering, and most likely onto some kind of graduate degree.

From my observations of and brief experience in the nuclear industry, *most* people in it are not nuclear engineers. And many of the ones who are don't do nuclear engineering. Something to think about.
 
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Thank you, I think I will do the academic route so i can be more versatile with other companies, I'm thinking of doing mechanical engineering to "get my foot in the door" with the industry and see where it goes from there. That being said am I able to get core classes done at a state college (English, history, etc.) then transfer them to a university and pursue education in this field?
 
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Groothouse said:
Thank you, I think I will do the academic route so i can be more versatile with other companies, I'm thinking of doing mechanical engineering to "get my foot in the door" with the industry and see where it goes from there. That being said am I able to get core classes done at a state college (English, history, etc.) then transfer them to a university and pursue education in this field?

Usually, yes, although it depends. You have to check with the university you ultimately want to graduate from and ask them if they will transfer credits from your local school. You don't want to go through a whole semester just to find out that they won't take your credits and it was all for nothing.
 
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Ok thank you
 
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kinkmode said:
That program sounds like a good thing if you want to be an operator at a power plant. If you work hard enough and have enough talent, you might be able to move up to a senior reactor operator and on into management eventually. You won't become a nuclear engineer that way though. It pays well though.

If you want to "work in labs and create new nuclear systems" you will probably have to go the academic route: BS in Engineering, and most likely onto some kind of graduate degree.

From my observations of and brief experience in the nuclear industry, *most* people in it are not nuclear engineers. And many of the ones who are don't do nuclear engineering. Something to think about.

Honestly, mechanical engineering might be a better option in the long run anyway. Nuclear Engineering as a bachelors can pigeon hole you pretty bad.
 

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