Number of molecules on human's body

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The discussion revolves around estimating the number of molecules in a human body, with a focus on the assumptions and calculations involved in such estimations. The subject area includes concepts from chemistry and biology, particularly related to atomic and molecular quantities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore whether the question requires memorization or calculation, with some suggesting it involves "back of the envelope" estimates. There are discussions about the mass of atoms and the implications of different body weights on the number of molecules. Questions arise about the distinction between molecules in versus on the body, and how to account for surface area.

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Some participants have provided guidance on making assumptions for calculations, such as considering the body’s water content. Others are questioning the clarity of the original question and discussing the relevance of units in the context of molecular counts. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note the need for assumptions regarding body composition and the potential ambiguity in the question about molecules being "in" or "on" the body. There is also mention of the importance of order of magnitude in calculations.

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Homework Statement


What is the number of moleules on human's body?


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Is this some kind of theory question and I just have to memorize it or does it involve calculation?

I have tried searching a bit and found out that a person, about 70 kg, would have 7 x 102 atoms (without calculation)

Thanks
 
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songoku said:
I have tried searching a bit and found out that a person, about 70 kg, would have 7 x 102 atoms (without calculation)
Thanks

What kind of search did you conduct and to what extent did you filter what you found?

If a person of mass 70 kg has 700 atoms in his/her body then one atom must have a mass of 100 grams. Do you really believe this?
 
Hi kuruman

Ah, I'm sorry. I mean 7 x 1027 atoms. Do I just have to memorize this? But how about if the person is 60 kg?

Thanks
 
No, you don't have to memorize this. The only number you may have to memorize is Avogadro's number. This is what is known as a "back of the envelope" calculation that needs to be correct to within an order of magnitude, i.e. have the correct power of ten.

You need to make some assumptions first. Since a person is mostly water, H2O, how many water molecules are there in 70 kg worth of water? That should be close enough for an order of magnitude estimate.
 
The only problem I see here is whether the question asks about number of molecules IN or ON the human body :wink:
 
Borek said:
The only problem I see here is whether the question asks about number of molecules IN or ON the human body :wink:

Maybe you're right, but I wouldn't know how to calculate the surface area of a human body. Does it increase when one opens one's mouth? What about all those hairs? They have quite a bit of area for the volume they occupy. :biggrin:
 
Borek said:
The only problem I see here is whether the question asks about number of molecules IN or ON the human body :wink:
:smile:
kuruman said:
You need to make some assumptions first. Since a person is mostly water, H2O, how many water molecules are there in 70 kg worth of water? That should be close enough for an order of magnitude estimate.

number of molecules = 70 * 6.02 x 1023/ (18 x 10-3). Thanks :smile:
 
Units please. The answer may be correct but nekkid numbers are meaningless.

About the SA of the human body I recall the 'Rule of Ninths'; head 1, arms 2,3, legs 5, 7, trunk front 8, trunk rear 9.
 
Hi Doug

The unit : molecules. But I think it's ok without unit for this one because "molecules" is not like other units, e.g kg or m/s. I'm not sure how to explain my opinion but I think there are cases where unit is not required. But I am maybe wrong though.

And what is "SA of human body" ? Thanks
 
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SA = Surface Area.

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