Number of moles of argon plasma to exert X pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the number of moles of argon gas and the pressure exerted when argon is transformed into plasma. Participants explore the implications of this transformation on kinetic energy and pressure, as well as the conditions under which plasma is generated.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the number of moles of argon gas required to exert a specific pressure would change when the gas is transformed into plasma, suggesting that plasma's higher kinetic energy might affect this.
  • Another participant inquires about the method of converting argon to plasma and raises questions about the expected results from heating, indicating a need for clarification on the process.
  • A later reply elaborates on the method of using electric current to create plasma, proposing that this could lead to higher kinetic energy and thus more pressure, while expressing confusion about the temperatures of plasma for various gases.
  • One participant notes that devices generating plasma typically operate at much lower pressures than atmospheric pressure, which may facilitate the plasma generation process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of transforming argon gas into plasma on the number of moles required for a given pressure, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of plasma temperature and pressure relationships.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the behavior of gases versus plasma, the dependence on specific conditions for plasma generation, and the lack of consensus on the implications of temperature in this context.

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is the amount of argon gas to exert 10,000 psi in cylinder will be the same if argon transformed to plasma or the number of moles will be less as plasma is more excited and have higher kinetic energy?
 
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How do you want to convert it to plasma?
Even if we ignore the transition to plasma, what do you expect as result from heating?
 
mfb said:
How do you want to convert it to plasma?
Even if we ignore the transition to plasma, what do you expect as result from heating?
sorry for the late reply.
i mean if we connected an electric current to it to transform it to plasma, will that lead to a higher kinetic energy from the electric current which will give out more pressure right?
but i don't get temperatures of plasma for all kind of gases and that's mainly where i would appreciate your help, i always see videos on youtube of argon plasma in glass jars so how does the high temperature of argon plasma doesn't make the glass jar explode, here is a link to the video that got me confused
 
Usually those devices have a much lower pressure than atmospheric pressure, as this makes it easier to generate a plasma.
 
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