Number of objects distributed between four people

In summary, in this problem, it is not clear what the maximum amount of money that each person can receive is, or what the distribution of that maximum amount will be.
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gruba
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Homework Statement


Four people are dealing the total amount of money, which is [itex]1000[/itex] monetary units in terms of [itex]100[/itex] monetary units. Count the number of ways for this distribution if:
[itex]1)[/itex] Every person doesn't have to get any money
[itex]2)[/itex] Every person will get at least [itex]100[/itex] monetary units
[itex]3)[/itex] First person will get at least [itex]500[/itex] m.u. and other three people at least [itex]100[/itex] m.u.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


The problem doesn't state what is the maximum amount of money that each person can get.
Assuming that, in [itex]1)[/itex] every person will get the same amount ([itex]200[/itex] m.u.), the total number of counts would be the coefficient with [itex]x^{1000}[/itex] in [itex](1+x+...+x^{200})^4[/itex].

In [itex]2)[/itex], assuming that the maximum amount for every person is [itex]200[/itex] m.u, the total number of counts would be the coefficient with [itex]x^{1000}[/itex] in [itex](x^{100}+...+x^{200})^4[/itex].

In [itex]3)\Rightarrow x^{500}(x^{100}+...+x^{200})^3[/itex]

What do you think, how to solve this problem?
 
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You can convert (2) and (3) into the same problem as (1) with a different total to be distributed, by doing something non-probabilistic before you start the random part. What might that non-probabilistic step be?BTW, your formula ##(1+x+...+x^{200})^4## doesn't need to be have such a huge number of terms. Since everything is done in multiples of 100mu, divide the amounts by 100mu before you start.
 
  • #3
gruba said:

Homework Statement


Four people are dealing the total amount of money, which is [itex]1000[/itex] monetary units in terms of [itex]100[/itex] monetary units. Count the number of ways for this distribution if:
[itex]1)[/itex] Every person doesn't have to get any money
[itex]2)[/itex] Every person will get at least [itex]100[/itex] monetary units
[itex]3)[/itex] First person will get at least [itex]500[/itex] m.u. and other three people at least [itex]100[/itex] m.u.

Homework Equations


-Combinatorics

The Attempt at a Solution


The problem doesn't state what is the maximum amount of money that each person can get.
Assuming that, in [itex]1)[/itex] every person will get the same amount ([itex]200[/itex] m.u.), the total number of counts would be the coefficient with [itex]x^{1000}[/itex] in [itex](1+x+...+x^{200})^4[/itex].

In [itex]2)[/itex], assuming that the maximum amount for every person is [itex]200[/itex] m.u, the total number of counts would be the coefficient with [itex]x^{1000}[/itex] in [itex](x^{100}+...+x^{200})^4[/itex].

In [itex]3)\Rightarrow x^{500}(x^{100}+...+x^{200})^3[/itex]

What do you think, how to solve this problem?

I found the wording of your problem confusing: if you mean that each person can receive 0 or 100 or 200 or ... (i,e, multiples of 100) then you should say that a bit more clearly. If that is what you mean, it would be much easier to let 100 m.u be a new monetary unit. Now the amount each person can receive is an integer number of these new units and we have a total of 10 new units for distribution.

Also, to clarify: in (3), do you mean (in these new units) that persons 2--4 get at least 1 in total, or that persons 2--4 will get at least 1 each?
 
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gruba said:
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Assuming that, in 1) every person will get the same amount (200 m.u.)
That would not be a good assumption. As I read it, the whole amount is to be divvied up, and there's no restriction on who gets what. Essentially, you have ten identical things to put in four (distinct) baskets.
 

1. What is the formula for calculating the number of objects distributed between four people?

The formula for calculating the number of objects distributed between four people is n/4, where n represents the total number of objects.

2. Can the number of objects be evenly distributed between four people?

Yes, the number of objects can be evenly distributed between four people if the total number of objects is divisible by four.

3. What if the number of objects is not evenly divisible by four?

If the number of objects is not evenly divisible by four, then there will be a remainder. In this case, the remainder will be distributed among the four people, with each person receiving one additional object until the remainder is exhausted.

4. Is there a limit to the number of objects that can be distributed between four people?

No, there is no limit to the number of objects that can be distributed between four people. As long as there are enough objects to distribute, the process can continue.

5. What if the number of objects is less than four?

If the number of objects is less than four, then the objects cannot be evenly distributed between four people. In this case, some people may receive more objects than others, or some objects may be left undistributed.

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