Number of Terms in Sequence $\left\lfloor \dfrac{x^2}{1998} \right\rfloor$

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The discussion revolves around determining the number of different terms in the sequence defined by $\left\lfloor \dfrac{x^2}{1998} \right\rfloor$ for integer values of $x$ from 1 to 1997. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of the sequence's properties.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the number of different terms is $\left\lfloor \dfrac{1997^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 1996$ based on an identity involving $\frac{x^2}{x+1}$.
  • Another participant challenges this conclusion, indicating that the sequence may have fewer than 1997 distinct terms, citing specific calculations for small values of $x$ that yield zero.
  • A later reply acknowledges the previous assumption that all values are taken was incorrect, indicating a realization of the need to reconsider the distinct terms in the sequence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the number of distinct terms in the sequence, with some asserting it could be 1996 while others argue it is less than that due to specific values yielding zero. The discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the sequence, particularly regarding the values of $x$ that yield distinct terms. The calculations presented depend on specific interpretations of the floor function and the range of $x$.

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Find the number of different terms of the finite sequence $\left\lfloor \dfrac{x^2}{1998} \right\rfloor$ where $x=1,\,2,\,3,\,\cdots,\,1997$.
 
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anemone said:
Find the number of different terms of the finite sequence $\left\lfloor \dfrac{x^2}{1998} \right\rfloor$ where $x=1,\,2,\,3,\,\cdots,\,1997$.

[sp]According to the identity $\displaystyle \frac{x^{2}}{x+1} = \frac{x^{2} - 1 + 1}{x+ 1} = x-1 + \frac{1}{x+1}$ the number of different terms are $\displaystyle \left\lfloor \dfrac{1997^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 1997-1 = 1996$... [/sp]Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
[sp]According to the identity $\displaystyle \frac{x^{2}}{x+1} = \frac{x^{2} - 1 + 1}{x+ 1} = x-1 + \frac{1}{x+1}$ the number of different terms are $\displaystyle \left\lfloor \dfrac{1997^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 1997-1 = 1996$... [/sp]Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$

Hi chisigma,:) thanks for participating but I am sorry, your answer isn't correct...:(
 
We have:
\[
\frac{(k+1)^2}{1998} - \frac{k^2}{1998} = \frac{2k+1}{1998} =: d(k).
\]

$d(k) < 1$ when $1 \leq k \leq 998$. So we have:
\[
\left\lfloor \frac{1^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 0; \left\lfloor \frac{998^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 498.
\]
So there are $499$ different values in this range of $k$ (going from $0$ to $498$).

$d(k) > 1$ when $999 \leq k \leq 1997$. For these values of $k$, we know the floor function takes on
all distinct values, so there are $1997 - 999 + 1 = 999$ distinct values for this range of $k$.

The total is therefore $999 + 499 = 1498$.
 
anemone said:
Find the number of different terms of the finite sequence $\left\lfloor \dfrac{x^2}{1998} \right\rfloor$ where $x=1,\,2,\,3,\,\cdots,\,1997$.

x = 1 gives the value 0
x = 1997 gives the value 1996 as 1997 * 1997 - 1 = 1996 * 10998

so 1997 values are taken all values from 0 to 1996
 
magneto said:
We have:
\[
\frac{(k+1)^2}{1998} - \frac{k^2}{1998} = \frac{2k+1}{1998} =: d(k).
\]

$d(k) < 1$ when $1 \leq k \leq 998$. So we have:
\[
\left\lfloor \frac{1^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 0; \left\lfloor \frac{998^2}{1998} \right\rfloor = 498.
\]
So there are $499$ different values in this range of $k$ (going from $0$ to $498$).

$d(k) > 1$ when $999 \leq k \leq 1997$. For these values of $k$, we know the floor function takes on
all distinct values, so there are $1997 - 999 + 1 = 999$ distinct values for this range of $k$.

The total is therefore $999 + 499 = 1498$.

Well done, magneto and thanks for participating! But having said this, I wanted to give some credit to chisigma as well!:):cool:
 
kaliprasad said:
x = 1 gives the value 0
x = 1997 gives the value 1996 as 1997 * 1997 - 1 = 1996 * 10998

so 1997 values are taken all values from 0 to 1996

Hi kaliprasad, somehow I missed to read your post. Sorry about that!

Hmm, what do you think of the following?:)

$\left\lfloor \dfrac{1^2}{1998} \right\rfloor =0,\,\left\lfloor \dfrac{2^2}{1998} \right\rfloor =0,\cdots,\,\left\lfloor \dfrac{44^2}{1998} \right\rfloor =0$

That surely gives us less than 1997 distinct terms in that sequence when $x$ ranges from 1 to 1997, doesn't it?
 
anemone said:
Hi kaliprasad, somehow I missed to read your post. Sorry about that!

Hmm, what do you think of the following?:)

$\left\lfloor \dfrac{1^2}{1998} \right\rfloor =0,\,\left\lfloor \dfrac{2^2}{1998} \right\rfloor =0,\cdots,\,\left\lfloor \dfrac{44^2}{1998} \right\rfloor =0$

That surely gives us less than 1997 distinct terms in that sequence when $x$ ranges from 1 to 1997, doesn't it?

You are right. Wrongly I presumed that all values are taken. I am wrong fully
 
kaliprasad said:
You are right. Wrongly I presumed that all values are taken. I am wrong fully

Don't worry about it, kali!:)
 

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