Number Theory Help: Proving Expression is Equal to Prime Number

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The discussion revolves around a number theory problem concerning the expression a + bx, where gcd(a, b) = 1, and whether there exists an integer x such that this expression equals a prime number. The original poster seeks proof of this statement and recommendations for beginner number theory books.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the expression a + bx equating to a prime number, questioning the validity of the original statement and examining specific cases. Some participants analyze the conditions under which x can be an integer and the relationship between a, b, and p.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various insights and questioning assumptions. Some have offered alternative perspectives on the problem, while others express uncertainty about the complexity of proving the statement. There is no explicit consensus on the validity of the original claim.

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Participants note the potential difficulty of the problem, with references to advanced proofs in number theory, such as those by Dirichlet and Selberg, indicating that the topic may be more complex than initially perceived. There is also mention of specific cases and examples that challenge the assumptions made in the original statement.

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Hi guys, i m just a begineer in number theory.
While solving some questions ,i came across a doubt.

The expression: a+bx
here, gcd(a,b)=1
There always exists a value of x(where x is a integer) such that the above
expression is equal to a prime number.

Can anyone prove the above statement (if it is true).

Also,please suggest some good book on number theory for begineers.
Thanks in advance.
 
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a+bx=p
x(a/x +b)=p
a/x + b=p/x.

P is prime be definition, so p/x can not be an integer.

a/x + b can not be an integer.
a/x can not be an integer.

Lets let this non integer equal t.
a/x=t
a=xt
Since a has to be an integer, and t is not an integer, x can not be an integer either.

This theorem is false in the natural numbers, or the integers.
 
Thanx for solution,
But I have a doubt in :
a/x=t
a=xt
Since a has to be an integer, and t is not an integer, x can not be an integer either.

Here ,how can we say that product of a rational number and integer is not a
integer. As,here x is not a prime(assume) may be factor of denominator of t.

Also,a+bx=p
x=(p-a)/b
means;
p=a(mod b)

Here,just studying a special case,
a=1 and b=r(r is a prime)
1+rx=p (r,p are both primes)
rx=p-1
x=(p-1)/r
p=1(mod r)
This equation has integra solutions.
Above is derived from a
Statement that for any prime p there exists a complete residue system modulo n,all whose members are primes.
So, a can be anything from 1,2,3,...r-1
and r,p are primes.
 
Umm I may have gone onto this question intuitively rather than a solid proof.

The product of a rational integer and a non integer can only be another integers if the non integer contains a factor in its denominator. So we have to prove that t is of the form C/nx. But, if it is, the a=c/n. so T =a/x. Since that is true, it is of the form c/nx and that makes my proof wrong >.< but hopefully that leads you in a good direction. Sorry about the mistake
 
Do you have any reason to believe that that is an 'easy' problem? There is a proof by Dirichlet that a series like you have defined contains an infinite number of primes. But the proof uses complex analysis and isn't elementary. One might hope that the job of proving the series contains at least one prime might be easier than showing it contains an infinite number. But I'm really not sure it is.
 
Well Dick,you may be right that my question is not that easy,but as i told that
myself being just a begineer ,i may not have duly reconginsed the depth in the question.
But,my intution says that simple expressions like 1+px(p being a prime)
will definitely yield a prime.But,had no idea that even simple problem like that are not that simple at all.

Well,can you please tell from where can i find that proof by Dirichlet.
 
Here's a pdf I found:

modular.fas.harvard.edu/129/projects/weissman/project.pdf

You might also try to find the alternative proof by Selberg cited in the paper - which doesn't use complex numbers but is "long and not particularly enlightening".
 
Also the newsgroup sci.math is a great place to post questions like this. There are some smart people there.
 
Gib Z said:
a+bx=p
x(a/x +b)=p
a/x + b=p/x.

P is prime be definition, so p/x can not be an integer.

That's the first mistake in your proof. p/x can be an integer, if x = 1.

Work through an example like 2 + 3.5 = 17 to find more mistakes.
 

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