O(︶︿︶)o 【Where should I go for undergrad】?

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The discussion revolves around a participant's dilemma regarding choosing an undergraduate program between the University of Toronto (EngSci) and the University of Waterloo (Mechatronics) after not gaining admission to a top US university. The scope includes considerations of gap years, transfer options, and the value of the institutions in question.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the value of delaying education for a year to apply to a US university, prompting a discussion on the importance of immediate enrollment versus waiting.
  • Another suggests starting at either Waterloo or UToronto and considering a transfer later, arguing that this approach avoids losing a year.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of transfer admissions to top US universities, especially for international students, with some participants advocating for attending the Canadian schools instead.
  • Several participants express the opinion that taking a gap year is not advisable, citing potential wasted time and the challenges of being classified as a "mature" student upon reapplication.
  • The financial aspect of attending these universities is discussed, with one participant highlighting the costs associated with studying at Waterloo.
  • There is a consensus among some that both UofT and Waterloo are reputable institutions, and that the participant should consider the benefits of attending one of them rather than risking a gap year.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that taking a gap year may not be the best option and that both UofT and Waterloo are strong choices. However, there are differing opinions on the value of transferring to a US university versus starting at a Canadian institution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the admissions process, the implications of taking a gap year, and the financial considerations of attending university. There is no resolution on the best path forward for the original poster.

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Hello

I'm new here


I'm currently deciding where should I go for undergrad,

I got both offers from Waterloo (matratronics), UToronto(engsci) and withdraw from US university because my sat marks didn't reach them in time for consideration. My original goal was to get into top us university, and right now, the reality is not what i expected.

so, I thought about taking a gap year, and then apply to the us university again. but i have no gurantee i will get in. so... what should I do? gap year? go to ut or waterloo? or what?

i need some advice and suggestions.

thx in adavnce
 
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Why is going to that specific university worth losing a year to you?

Also, it's spelled "mechatronics". I don't like to play grammar police, but if you're going to major in a program, make sure you know how to spell it! :smile:
 
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Wouldn't it be better to start at Waterloo or UToronto and consider transferring, so you don't lose a year?
 
Transfer admissions to the top US universities is really hard, and probably even harder if you're international. And even if you take a gap year, admissions will still be hard, especially since you're an international student. Waterloo and University of Toronto are both really good schools anyways, so I don't see what the problem is. I would rather go there without the expectation of transferring, rather than risking a gap year just to get more choices (though if a gap year is something you want to do outside of trying again at college admissions, that's definitely something you should consider).
 
It is not worth wasting a year in my opinion. Go to either of those schools (which are both good) and see how you feel at the end of the year about transferring.
 
ask your parents if they can afford that much first
first year in waterloo for engineering costs $20,000 (includes residence textbook meal and tuition fees)
 
$20,000 is NOT cheap, maybe compared to $100,000 it's 'cheap'. But to any normal person who it's filthy rich, $20,000 is not cheap at all.
 
Definitely do not take a gap year.
A) that's an entire year of your life that will probably be mostly wasted, at least it will be if you compare what you could do with that year later in your life.

B) UofT and Waterloo are very good undergraduate schools. I am currently in EngSci and its a very good and competitive program which you really can't go wrong with (assuming you put in the effort). I also had a friend drop out of mechatronics at Waterloo so I know that that is a tough program too (can't compare it too engsci unfortunately).

C) I would be very careful with a gap year after high school. I know someone who did exactly that, they took a year off after high school and when they went back to apply to some universities, the universities declared them as a "mature" student, and made their life extremely difficult.

Honestly, you should really just go to either UofT or Waterloo. They are great schools and you will have a lot of fun in your first few years of university, way more fun than taking a gap year would be.

Also, as far as I understand, the university in which you do your undergrad really does not matter. Assuming you go to a university which keeps its program up to date and is reasonably competitive, that is all that really matters. UofT and Waterloo are top notch in this respect. You can focus on going to a "top" school for graduate school if you want to, as the name of the school beside your Phd carries a bit more weight.
 

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