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The discussion centers on the recent election results, highlighting a sense of satisfaction among some regarding the perceived failures of the Republican Party, particularly Mitt Romney's campaign. Participants note that while Obama deserves credit for winning reelection in challenging times, the election was significantly influenced by Romney's inability to effectively communicate his economic plans and his overall campaign strategy. There is a consensus that the Republican Party must adapt to changing demographics and public sentiments, particularly regarding issues like immigration and social policies, to remain relevant. The impact of Hurricane Sandy on the election is debated, with some arguing it had little effect, while others believe it helped Obama by showcasing his leadership. The conversation also touches on the electoral college versus popular vote dynamics, with differing opinions on what constitutes a "landslide" victory. Overall, the thread reflects a critical view of the Republican Party's current trajectory and the need for reevaluation of its strategies moving forward.
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  • #123
Evo will be pleased. I think she voted for Harrison.
 
  • #124
russ_watters said:
Meanwhile, the Dow is down about 300 points right now.
No surprise there, given the continuing gridlock in the system as a whole.

Either that, or the "1%" are forced sellers covering their losses on spread bets on Romney :devil:
 
  • #125
Jimmy Snyder said:
Evo will be pleased. I think she voted for Harrison.

Aah, now I know why he undressed at an inappopriate moment for too long.
 
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micromass said:
I'm very glad Obama won. Very glad. But I fail to see how "landslide" or "butt kicked" characterize these elections. In my opinion, Romney got very close to beating Obama, closer than he should have come. If the republicans elected a better candidate, then they probably would have won.

Romney was a good candidate. And he didn't get very close to beating Obama. He got very close to causing an EV/PV split. Major difference.
 
  • #128
mathwonk said:
actually young southerners are much less racist than us oldsters, or maybe it is just the ones in my neighborhood.

My state wanted Rick Santorum for president. They even voted for a wife beater for state representative over a democrat.

Needless to say, I think it'll be a few more generations.
 
  • #129
arildno said:
Doesn't that tell you more about Dick Morris' incompetence than anything else??
The fact is that a 325 win for Romney wouldn't have been a "landslide", by any historically meaningful comparison.

Yes, it would have been, because the electorate is such that Texas would never (in its current state) vote for a Democrat, and Massachusetts would never vote for a Republican, at least at the Presidential level. The "blue wall" and the "red wall" are nearly impenetrable provided each candidate has a brain. If you measure landslides by Reagan's standards, then there will never be a landslide again. But a 325 Romney win would have meant eating significant margins into traditionally blue territory. And that, frankly, is what a landslide is all about: eating into the opponent's territory. Like Obama with Colorado and New Mexico and Virginia.
 
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Angry Citizen said:
Yes, it would have been, because the electorate is such that Texas would never (in its current state) vote for a Democrat, and Massachusetts would never vote for a Republican, at least at the Presidential level. The "blue wall" and the "red wall" are nearly impenetrable provided each candidate has a brain. If you measure landslides by Reagan's standards, then there will never be a landslide again. But a 325 Romney win would have meant eating significant margins into traditionally blue territory. And that, frankly, is what a landslide is all about: eating into the opponent's territory. Like Obama with Colorado and New Mexico and Virginia.
Obama won with the 20th lowest (out of 50) percentage of EVs in US history.
Landslide?
A SLIGHTLY more rational idea might be to be in the top half of that list. That would have required roughly 360 mandates.

But even though YOU are not an idiot, you have deranged this thread with idiotic redefinitions of words, merely, due to your vanity, in order to prove yourself right.
I have had enough of your nonsense, and complete detachment from reality.
 
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Obama won with the 20th lowest (out of 50) percentage of EVs in US history.
Landslide?

See sentences one, two, and three in the post you quoted, yet either did not read or did not assimilate.
 
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Angry Citizen said:
Yes, it would have been, because the electorate is such that Texas would never (in its current state) vote for a Democrat, and Massachusetts would never vote for a Republican, at least at the Presidential level. The "blue wall" and the "red wall" are nearly impenetrable provided each candidate has a brain. If you measure landslides by Reagan's standards, then there will never be a landslide again. But a 325 Romney win would have meant eating significant margins into traditionally blue territory. And that, frankly, is what a landslide is all about: eating into the opponent's territory. Like Obama with Colorado and New Mexico and Virginia.

This entire thread is silly. It is turning into the following:

"It was a landslide victory"
"No, it wasn't"
"Yes, it was"
etc.

Let's try to set some objective criteria on the term landslide victory, like the following:
  • Has won by a significant margin in the popular vote.
  • Has won a significant portion of the electoral college.
  • Political commentators and news stations are using the word landslide victory.

None of these are satisfied. So, what objective criteria do you have to talk about a landslide victory?? I don't find "eating into an opponents territory" to be a very convincing definition.
 
  • #133
Roughly 400.000 votes the other way, out of some 100 million (0.4% of the voting total), could have given Romney EV victory.
 
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Sigh.
Thread locked pending moderation.
 
  • #135
This thread is out of control and going nowhere.
 

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