Object collisions: momentum and force

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The discussion centers on solving for final velocities in elastic and inelastic collisions using conservation of momentum and the coefficient of restitution (COR). It establishes that while final velocities can be determined in perfectly inelastic collisions, additional information is required for elastic collisions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the shapes and materials of colliding objects to estimate energy loss during inelastic collisions, and it suggests using COR to analyze the relationship between parting and approach velocities. Key formulas mentioned include the kinematic equation for velocity and the integration of elemental impulses to assess changes in momentum.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of conservation of momentum principles
  • Familiarity with elastic and inelastic collisions
  • Knowledge of the coefficient of restitution (COR)
  • Basic kinematic equations and their applications
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of the coefficient of restitution in collision problems
  • Learn about the integration of elemental impulses in momentum analysis
  • Explore the effects of object shape and material properties on collision outcomes
  • Review advanced kinematic equations and their derivations
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Physics students, mechanical engineers, and anyone interested in the dynamics of collisions and momentum analysis.

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2 semi-related questions:
1)If momentum is conserved in a system of 2 objects colliding and we are aware of their masses and initial velocities, let's say object 1 is moving at a certain velocity towards object 2 at rest, is there any way to solve for their final velocities without knowing one of their final velocities? I know you can solve for this in a perfectly inelastic collision but how about in an elastic or inelastic collision? If not can this be explained by forces?

2) if object 1 was initially at rest and an a certain amount of force acted on it for a brief moment but then subsides, setting object 1 at a constant velocity on a collision course with object 2 (at rest) and after the collision object 2 has the same momentum as object 1 at a constant velocity before the collision (object 1 comes to rest after) will the given force on object 1 be equal to the magnitude of the force on object 2 in the collision?
 
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Formula: vf=vi^2-2ad

Vf= Final velocity
Vi= Initial velocity
A= Acceleration
D= Distance
 
That's a kinematic equation for a single object, I don't think that was what I was looking for
 
If you really want to analyse an inelastic collision, then it may be necessary to examine what happens to the shape of the objects involved during the collision. If you know the details of the shapes and the materials involved, you can estimate the amount of energy lost during the collision. It isn't easy because the forces, during the collision will vary (Hookes Law ideas - but worse- relating deformation to force) This will give you the change in momentum (integrating the elemental Impulses dP in terms of Force and Time). In most problems you try to lump it all together as a single Impulse and ignore the details. The intermediate step of using Coefficient of Restitution is often used.

Many inelastic collisions are analysed, using the 'COR (beloved of A Level Mechanics) which is the ratio of parting velocity to approach velocity. That assumes linearity, of course, but it's a good start with bouncing balls problems. Look at the Wiki article on COR and, if you want to look further then there are several references at the end.
You can always rely on Conservation of Momentum and then include the Coeff of Restitution in the equation describing the relative velocities. That will give you the loss on energy.
It all depends upon how involved you want to get and how easy you find the Maths.
 

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