Can Objects Continue Traveling Forever in a Vacuum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether an object can continue traveling indefinitely in a vacuum or if it will eventually come to a stop due to various factors, including deformation and external influences. Participants explore concepts related to motion in a vacuum, the effects of gravity, and the nature of vacuum itself.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that deformation could occur due to the object's own gravity, but question its impact on velocity.
  • Others propose that impacts with interstellar debris could slow an object down, although this raises the issue of whether the object is truly in a vacuum.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of vacuum, with some noting that no vacuum is completely devoid of particles, which could lead to minor impacts over time.
  • One participant emphasizes that "coming to a stop" is relative to an arbitrary point, challenging the notion of absolute rest in space.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the meaning of "vacuum" and the implications of minor particle presence in space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement on the initial claim about objects stopping in a vacuum, with some asserting that it is a misunderstanding of physics. There is no consensus on the implications of minor impacts or the nature of vacuum, indicating multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the concept of an ideal vacuum is not realistic, as all vacuums contain some particles. The discussion also highlights the ambiguity in terms like "come to a stop" and the relativity of motion in space.

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So a couple of days ago I ran into someone who said that an object traveling forever in a vacuum will eventually come to a stop due to deformation. After a little research I wasn't able to find much on the topic can someone explain it to me, and is it true that he object will eventually stop. Just off of the top of my head the only thing that I can think of that would deform an object in a vacuum would be its own gravity, but I doubt this because from my little understanding on the matter gravity and its object are at an equalibruim.
 
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Maybe deformation of the space-time?
Anyway, there is not much to talk about here. There is no way to find the context, probably, as it is just word of mouth.
 
OP,

That makes no sense at all.
 
For starters, there is no such thing as "come to a stop" in space. Best it can do is be at rest relative to some arbitrarily chosen point such as a nearby planet or star. On this alone, your friend is clearly naive about the physics. You could tell him that, and go no further.

Biscuit said:
Just off of the top of my head the only thing that I can think of that would deform an object in a vacuum would be its own gravity
If an object were big enough, it might eventually become spherical under its own gravity. But that will have zero effect on its velocity.

Perhaps he's thinking that sufficient impacts with interstellar debris will slow it to some average velocity.
 
In a vacuum the only thing which significantly can change the object's trajectory, (and possibly slightly deform the object), would be the gravity of other massive objects which it passes nearby.
 
rootone said:
In a vacuum the only thing which significantly can change the object's trajectory, (and possibly slightly deform the object it), would be the gravity of other massive objects which it passes nearby.
And impacts with bodies, gas, dust and other debris.
 
DaveC426913 said:
And impacts with bodies, gas, dust and other debris.
But then it isn't traveling in a vacuum.
 
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rootone said:
But then it isn't traveling in a vacuum.
Of course it is.

No vacuum is completely free of particles. Best natural (or even artificial) vacuum is measured in particles per unit volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_medium
Read paragraph 3 for some examples.
 
Well yes, there is no actual absolute vacuum in nature, so over a very long time the accumulation of minor impacts could slow it down.
I had read then OP as meaning an idealised vacuum with literally nothing at all present other than the object itself.
 
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well thank you all for the answer, I was on your side in the first place. It did seem strange to me that he said this thank you for re-enforcing this for me. I would also like to say that when I say "come to a stop" don't try to take it too meaningful i think you know what i meant.
 
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Biscuit said:
I would also like to say that when I say "come to a stop" don't try to take it too meaningful i think you know what i meant.
Yes, you meant something that is meaningless in actual physics which is why you got the answer you did. We DO tend to take actual physics as being meaningful.
 

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