Objects with Different Moments of Inertia Rolling Down an Inclined Plane

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of objects with different moments of inertia rolling down an inclined plane. Participants explore the implications of inertia on the motion of a solid sphere, hollow sphere, solid cylinder, and hollow cylinder, particularly in relation to energy distribution and acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the significance of a special solid cylinder with a density proportional to the radius and its impact on inertia. There are attempts to apply conservation of energy principles to derive relationships between potential and kinetic energy. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of kinetic energy terms and their influence on the time taken to roll down the incline.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance on using conservation of energy is provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final conclusions regarding the objects' behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to varying definitions of moment of inertia and the specific conditions of the objects involved. There is also mention of the need to consider different points of contact when calculating inertia.

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I think the answer for this is B) or D) but I am not sure what the sentence "a special solid cylinder in which the density is proportional to the radius" means...

The solid sphere has little inertia because mass is closer. So , solid sphere will not be last compared to the hollow sphere. The frictionless cube will not be last because most of the energy will go into KE and not RE , so the energy is not wasted. It will go down faster.

The hollow sphere will have less inertia than the hollow cylinder because the mass is closer to center of mass. Choosing between, hollow cylinder and solid cylinder... i think it might be hollow cylinder
 

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lc99 said:
a special solid cylinder in which the density is propotional to the radius
It just means that the cylinder has been constructed so as to have that density distribution, with the centre less dense than the outside.
lc99 said:
i think it might be hollow cylinder
Right... so why did you say B or D?
 
I think you have some good insight into the problem. Not sure what your question is about the special solid cylinder.

You could use conservation of energy to figure out the time required for an object to roll down. The change in potential energy is from the vertical distance the center of mass has moved. The kinetic energy is ##\frac{1}{2}I\omega^2##. The kinetic energy is equal to the change in potential energy, positive. So you get ##\omega##, the angular rate of rotation, as a function of the vertical distance moved s. You have ##\frac{d s}{d t} = \omega R sin(\theta)## where R is the radius of the sphere or cylinder and ##\theta## is the angle of the incline. You can the integrate ##dt = \frac{d s}{(\frac{ds}{dt})}##.
 
The time mainly depends on ##\sqrt{\frac{I}{MR^2}}##
 
I think there is a second term in the kinetic energy, ##\frac{1}{2}mV^{2} = \frac{1}{2}R^{2}\omega^2##. This adds a term to I in the final expression for the time to roll down.
 
Gene Naden said:
I think there is a second term in the kinetic energy, ##\frac{1}{2}mV^{2} = \frac{1}{2}R^{2}\omega^2##. This adds a term to I in the final expression for the time to roll down.
It depends which I you use. If you take moment of inertia about the point of contact then you don't need to a linear term.
 

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