Observation re PF philosophy forum changes and content

[JaredJames]

I've also noted a number of philosophy type threads appearing outside of the philosophy section. But they don't seem to last long.

I'm yet to here a strong argument why philosophy shouldn't subscribe to the new rules. The new rules don't restrict legitimate posting any more than the ban on perpetual motion machines elsewhere.

Instead of posting random crap that comes into your head you now have to think about what you're writing and form a coherent post.

PF doesn't deal with personal theories and speculation anywhere on the site, so why should philosophy be any different? If you want to post your new and remarkable idea you can go elsewhere. If you want to discuss something already out there or something built upon what is already out there then by all means, go for it.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

The rules IMO are very reasonable and not difficult to satisfy.

 

[nismaratwork]

The rules IMO are very reasonable and not difficult to satisfy.

They do, and I agree, but unless you were irrational or had ulterior motives you clearly lack, doesn't it go without saying that you believe the rules are reasonable?

I'd just add, it doesn't really address the exodus of those unlike ThomasT and Apeiron (who clearly can thrive under these rules). The result is that those LEAST able to make a case in a formerly 'liberal' area, are now scattering into other threads like roaches. It's... very frustrating to talk to someone who is just trying to get their "Religion and Philosophy" fix for the day.

 

[JaredJames]

The rules IMO are very reasonable and not difficult to satisfy.

Agreed.

It's... very frustrating to talk to someone who is just trying to get their "Religion and Philosophy" fix for the day.

Definitely agreed, but I don't think this is a major problem and as long as people report or respond adequately to the clearly BS posts things should be ok.

People either want philosophy to be taken seriously or they want a dumping ground for random thoughts. You can't have both and I personally feel the latter does bring down the level of PF.

 

[ThomasT]

I've come to the conclusion that what has been done is good in principle, but in practice this has been a disaster. At least this was contained in one area... now people who used to post almost exclusively there need to be essentially educated as to how arguments based in reality are formed OUTSIDE of Phil.

So, I'm thrilled that the standards of this site are high, but it's getting ugly where the walking dead of philosophy sub-forum wander.

Hi nis, yeah, some sort of action was necessary given recent trends, and inevitable, assuming that moderation of the philosophy forum hadn't been completely abandoned. It's happened at least two times before iirc.

My motivation for starting this thread was that there were a few currently locked threads that I would probably have replied to (hence the proposed dual forum solution).

Anyway, while not exactly "thrilled" I agree that what's "been done is good in principle". Requiring reference to published work at the outset of a thread (when it's a topic other than just a question on definitions, semantics or argumentation protocols, which are also allowed) will facilitate more efficient moderation.

What will, hopefully, thrill me later on is settling down to watch Slave Girls from Beyond Infinity with a rather large bucket of popcorn covered in bacon grease.

 

[kote]

I just wanted to stop in and give my vote for the new forum rules. I promise if I get any free time I'll do more posting there . The problem with half-way decent philosophy (given my current schedule) is that it takes a lot of time and research to say anything meaningful.

 

[Q_Goest]

I just wanted to stop in and give my vote for the new forum rules. I promise if I get any free time I'll do more posting there . The problem with half-way decent philosophy (given my current schedule) is that it takes a lot of time and research to say anything meaningful.

Ditto. I think the new rules have helped considerably.

 

[fuzzyfelt]

I agree with the last two posts, I like the changes! It is much better to read, and hopefully to post sometime.