Obtain the extremum of f(x,y,z)

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The problem involves finding the extremum of the function f(x,y,z) = 2x^2 + y^2 + 2z^2 + 2xy + 2xz + 2y + x - 3z - 5, which is a topic in multivariable calculus. The original poster seeks clarification on the method for determining the nature of the extremum in three dimensions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the function and is uncertain about the correctness of their derivatives, particularly questioning the appearance of a term in the partial derivative. They also seek guidance on how to determine the nature of the extremum in three variables.
  • Some participants suggest checking the values around the critical point and forming the Hessian matrix to analyze the nature of the extremum.
  • There are discussions about the equality of mixed derivatives and the implications of discrepancies in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into different methods for determining the nature of the extremum. There is a focus on verifying calculations and understanding the properties of the Hessian matrix. No consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the original poster's work.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions being in a Calculus 3 course and expresses uncertainty about the requirements for determining the nature of extrema in functions of three variables, indicating potential constraints in their understanding of the topic.

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Homework Statement


Obtain the extremum of f(x,y,z) = 2x^2 + y^2 + 2z^2 + 2xy + 2xz + 2y + x - 3z - 5 and determine its nature.


Homework Equations


Partial differentiation and systems of equations.


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My attempt is attached. In addition to confirming if what I did so far is correct, I would appreciate it if someone could also tell me how to "find the nature" of the point. I believe that means to state if it's a minimum, maximum or saddle point. For a function of two variables, I would know what to do but for a function of three variables, I do not. I remember hearing that we are not responsible for figuring out the nature of points higher than two variables using the method I would use which is the [f_(xy)]^2 - f_(xx) * f_(yy) test but that we should be able to do such a problem using a different easier method. I'm in a Calculus 3 course.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
 

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You have [itex]f(x,y,z)= 2x^2+ y^2+ 2z^2+ 2xy+ 2xz+ 2yz+ x- 3z- 5[/itex]
and assert that [itex]f_x= 4x+ 2y+ 2z+ 2y+ 1[/itex]
Where did that second "2y" come from?

The other two derivatives are correct.

As for determining what kind of extremum, there are two things you can do. The most basic is to look at values around the (x,y,z) point you get. Since there is only the one extremum, if other values of (x,y,z) give smaller values for f, you have a maximum, if higher, a minimum. Of course, there is the possibility of a saddle point but since the problem asks for an "extremum" that shouldn't happen.

More sophisticated is to form the matrix of second derivatives:
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}f_{xx} & f_{xy} & f_{xz} \\ f_{yx} & f_{yy} & f_{yz} \\ f_{zx} & f_{zy} & f_{zz}\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
evaluated at the critical point.

Because of the equality of the "mixed" derivatives, [itex]f_{xy}= f_{yx}[/itex], etc., that is a symmetric matrix and so has all real eigenvalues. If all eigenvalues are positive the extremum is a minimum, if all eigenvalues are negative, it is a maximum, and if there are both positive and negative eigenvalues, there is no "exteremum" but a saddle point.
 
Thank you for the informative reply.

By visual inspection, I don't think I did anything wrong but I get f_(xy) != f_(yx).

Before I proceed, could you please just check if I did something wrong and explain why I get f_(xy) != f_(yx) whether my work is correct or not?
 

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I just realized that I did f_(xx) != f_(yy).

Sorry.
 
Let's call that matrix you gave me H for Hessian.

Is my latest attachment 100% correct?
 

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