ODE: Infinite Solutions with Initial Condition x(0) = 0

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The discussion revolves around a first-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by dx/dt = x^(1/3) with the initial condition x(0) = 0. The original poster is tasked with demonstrating that there are infinitely many solutions to this ODE.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to use separation of variables but finds only one non-trivial solution besides the trivial solution x(t) = 0. Other participants suggest defining a piecewise solution to explore additional solutions.

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Participants are exploring the implications of piecewise solutions and questioning whether this approach can be generalized to other ODEs. There is a recognition that the specific nature of the ODE allows for multiple solutions under the same initial conditions, but no consensus has been reached on the broader applicability of this method.

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Participants are discussing the constraints of the problem, particularly the initial condition and the nature of the solutions that can be derived from it. There is also a mention of the limitations of applying similar reasoning to other types of ODEs.

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Hi all.

I am given the following ODE:

[tex] \frac{dx}{dt} = x^{1/3}[/tex]

with the initial condition x(0) = 0. I have to show that there is an infinite number of solutions. I'm not quite sure how to get started other than using separation of variables and going on from there. But this only gives me 1 solution other than the trivial solution x(t) = 0.

So I have 2 solutions, which is less than infinite. What approach should I use?

Thanks in advance.


Niles.
 
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Here's another solution. Let x(t)=0 on [0,1]. Now solve your ODE on the region [1,infinity) by solving the equation with the initial condition x(1)=0 and pick the nontrivial solution. I.e. define x(t) piecewise instead of just as a single formula. There's lots of solutions like this, right?
 
Thanks. But doesn't this imply that each ODE has infinitely many solutions? I mean, our tactic in this case is just to make the solution piecewise, where the first piece is just 0. Couldn't something similar be done to an arbitrary ODE?

By the way, am I allowed to ask what subfield of physics you did your primary research in?
 
Niles said:
Thanks. But doesn't this imply that each ODE has infinitely many solutions? I mean, our tactic in this case is just to make the solution piecewise, where the first piece is just 0. Couldn't something similar be done to an arbitrary ODE?

By the way, am I allowed to ask what subfield of physics you did your primary research in?

No, you can't do this trick with any ODE. Try it with a regular ODE. When you specify the initial conditions for the next piece in such a way as to make it continuous with the last piece, you get the same solution. It works for this one because there are two different solutions corresponding to the same initial conditions. Sure you can ask. I did my graduate work in cosmology.
 
Thanks for explaining that. I just need clarification of one single thing: When you say "solve the ODE on the interval [0;1]", you are just telling me to solve the following ODE with the initial condition x(1)=0, right?

[tex] \frac{dx}{dt} = x^{1/3}.[/tex]

Was there a particular reason why you chose cosmology, or where you just following your interest?
 
Sure, just splice the zero solution on [0,1] to the nonzero solution on [1,infinity). Just following my interests, in the cosmology thing. Always had a thing for GR.
 
Great, thanks for that. You seem very talented, so the award is well deserved.
 

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