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The discussion revolves around the classification of acids, specifically regarding a practice question from the SAT Chemistry exam that asks participants to identify which of several solutions is weakly acidic. The conversation explores the properties of acetic acid and methanol, as well as the implications of pH levels in determining acidity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that acetic acid (choice C) is the correct answer for being weakly acidic, while others suggest that methanol (choice D) should also be considered due to its weaker acidity compared to acetic acid.
  • One participant mentions that methanol is a very weak acid, even weaker than water, which influences their selection of it over acetic acid.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of acidity, with one participant questioning whether methanol can truly be classified as an acid despite its low acidity.
  • Another participant points out that a higher pH does not necessarily indicate that a substance is an acid, emphasizing that pH levels must be considered in context.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the neutrality of pH 7, noting that it can vary with temperature and that neutral solutions occur when [H+] = [OH-].
  • Participants discuss the relationship between pH, acid strength, and concentration, suggesting that comparing pH levels alone can be misleading without considering these factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether acetic acid or methanol is the better example of a weak acid. Multiple competing views remain regarding the classification of these substances and the interpretation of pH levels in relation to acidity.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about acid strength and the definitions of acidity, as well as the dependence on temperature for determining neutral pH levels.

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The answer provided to this question is disturbing me:

The set of lettered choices below refers to multiple questions. Select the one lettered choice that best fits each statement or answers each question. A choice may be used once, more than once, or not at all in each set.

Is weakly acidic

(A) 0.1 M H Cl
(B) 0.1 M Na Cl
(C) 0.1 M H C_2 H_3 O_2
(D) 0.1 M C H_3 O H
(E) 0.1 M K O H

Methanol is a weaker acid than acetic acid. Choice (D) fits in the weakly acidic category. The answer provided is (C).
Who is correct?
 
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Abdul Quadeer said:
Select the one lettered choice that best fits each statement

Acetic acid fits the category much better than methanol does. C is the correct answer. Your thinking would be OK if you were to select all choices that fit the category.
 
Actually I have studied through out the year that methanol is a very weak acid, even weaker than water. So that made me select it. I still find it ridiculuous to select acetic acid when methanol is there in the choices.
 
Abdul Quadeer said:
Actually I have studied through out the year that methanol is a very weak acid, even weaker than water. So that made me select it. I still find it ridiculuous to select acetic acid when methanol is there in the choices.

You mean acidity is very weak, but is it really a acid? Just like ammonia has higher pH than any weak acid, but you can not say it is an acid.
 
ZealScience said:
Just like ammonia has higher pH than any weak acid, but you can not say it is an acid.

Care to elaborate? Higher pH of solution means something is basic.
 
Borek said:
Care to elaborate? Higher pH of solution means something is basic.

I think he was trying to say that just because something has a higher pH than a really weak acid, doesn't make it an acid.

So you couldn't say something pH 8 was a weaker acid than something pH 6.

Well, that's how I read it anyway.

Would I be right in saying 7 is neutral and that is the decider if it's acidic or basic?
 
JaredJames said:
Would I be right in saying 7 is neutral and that is the decider if it's acidic or basic?
Yeah, pH7 is defined as neutral which is about the pH of distilled water at room temperature IIRC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH
 
OK, I think I see what confused me in the ZealScience's post.

To clarify/add to what you posted:

pH 7 solution is not necessarily neutral, it depends on the temperature. Solution is neutral if [H+] = [OH-], it happens that at 25 °C that means pH = 7.00, but for temperatures between 0°C and 100°C neutral pH varies from 7.47 to 6.14. See water ion product page.

pH is a property of a solution and is a function of both acid concentration and acid strength, so comparing strength of acids just by comparing solutions pH can be misleading - you have to be sure both solutions have the same acid concentrations. In such a case (and additionally assuming you compare monoprotic acids) solution with lower pH will mean stronger acid, but if solution is neutral substance is not acidic at all, and if pH is above 7, substance is basic, not acidic. I think this is more or less what ZealScience posted?
 

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