Ohio Voting Macines In The News Again

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The discussion centers around the security vulnerabilities of Ohio's voting machines, particularly in light of a recent study suggesting they can be manipulated. Participants explore the implications of these findings on the electoral process and voter enfranchisement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant cites a study indicating that Ohio's voting systems do not meet security standards and are vulnerable to manipulation using simple tools like a PDA and a magnet.
  • Another participant argues that the ability to manipulate voting machines could be seen as a new form of enfranchisement, suggesting that historical methods of gaining power have evolved.
  • A similar viewpoint is reiterated, emphasizing that the current political landscape reflects a disenfranchisement of voters, and calls for better electoral integrity.
  • One participant posits that electronic voting machines could lead to increased voter turnout, speculating on the potential outcomes of future elections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the vulnerabilities in voting machines. While some see it as a negative development, others propose that it could lead to a more equitable electoral process. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully agree on the implications of the study's findings, and there are assumptions about the relationship between technology and voter turnout that are not fully explored.

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It now appears that Ohio's voting machine count can be manipulated using only a PDA and a magnet.

A study conducted over a two-month period this year found that Ohio's voting systems are seriously flawed. An 86-page report released by Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner says, "The findings in this study indicate that the computer-based voting systems in use in Ohio do not meet computer industry security standards, and are susceptible to breaches of security that may jeopardize the integrity of the voting process."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4008511
 
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Everyone treats these stories like they are a bad thing.
Think of it as a new form of enfranchisement.
Originally the person with most swords won.
Then the person who bought the most voters
Then the person who bought the most advertising space.

Now it's the person who equipped with a screwdriver and a serial cable can hack fastest.
Is there any reason to believe that this won't produce better results?
 
mgb_phys said:
Everyone treats these stories like they are a bad thing.
Think of it as a new form of enfranchisement.
Originally the person with most swords won.
Then the person who bought the most voters
Then the person who bought the most advertising space.

Now it's the person who equipped with a screwdriver and a serial cable can hack fastest.
Is there any reason to believe that this won't produce better results?

The poll numbers for Congress and GWB say the public is at an all time disenfranchisement low.

GWB and his gang stole two general elections, this is not progress.

Yes, we should demand better!
 
But those elections were stolen after the vote, the old fashioned way.

When you have electronic voting machines you will see a large rise in voter turnout -
I'm guessing the next election will be won by someone form google with a turnout of 2^32
 

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