Ok, hello for starters I have a question about water/electrofishing

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The discussion centers on the use of a Model 57 Hold 'M electric fence controller for electrofishing in a private pond to manage crappie populations. The user successfully tested the device in a controlled environment but faced grounding issues when attempting to use it in the pond. Key insights include the importance of electrode placement, the necessity of pulsed DC for effective stunning, and the potential hazards associated with using high voltage equipment in water. Participants emphasized the need for safety protocols and suggested alternative methods and equipment for effective electrofishing.

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  • Understanding of electrofishing principles and techniques
  • Familiarity with electric fence controllers and their operation
  • Knowledge of electrical safety protocols in aquatic environments
  • Basic concepts of alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC)
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This discussion is beneficial for fisheries biologists, pond owners, and individuals interested in sustainable fish population management techniques, particularly those exploring electrofishing methods.

  • #31
Maybe that might work.
 
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  • #32
it didnt, lol
 
  • #33
something about my set up was off
 
  • #34
D'you mean the fence charger? No. Just dip the 120 VAC 100 Amp leads momentarily and far apart, across the pond from each other.
 
  • #35
Iseepotential said:
alternating current is what I want right? Direct won't work right? So I can't just rig something off of 12v?

Please do a bit more reading, now that we know the correct term is "electrofishing". Wikipedia has a good article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrofishing Including links to more information. It appears that the waveform probably should be pulsed DC, with the waveshape having an effect on the size of the fish that are attracted/stunned.

And here is a regulation from the Fish & Wildlife Service about electrofishing, although it appears to be mostly about safety aspects for its own F&WS employees when they are electrofishing as part of their conservation work: http://www.fws.gov/policy/241fw6.html

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  • #36
Its a private pond, what's a waveshape? Not trying irritate you smart people just enjoy expert advice straight from the "horses mouth"
 
  • #37
private as in not under government control...thank the good lord
 
  • #38
berkeman said:
Please do a bit more reading, now that we know the correct term is "electrofishing". Wikipedia has a good article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrofishing Including links to more information. It appears that the waveform probably should be pulsed DC, with the waveshape having an effect on the size of the fish that are attracted/stunned.
Very interesting about galvanotaxis. I admit I didn't know that. I thought they just stun the fish by currents between electrodes.
 
  • #39
I have read about these taxi's...what the hell does that mean? I assume not a mode of transportation.
 
  • #40
I was being sarcastic what is taxis?
 
  • #41
nevermind, wikipedia told me and gave me a headache
 
  • #42
I got it to work with a 12v and an inverter with a chain cathode and a grappling hook shaped silver solder anode. Measured 97 volts on a meter and could only get 24v on dc with two batteries in sequence. The problem is ac makes them sink where dc creates "taxis" and makes them come to the surface. I'm stumped, I think I need a "multiplier" for the dc. I just don't have a clue how to achieve it. Is that what a transformer does?
 
  • #43
Doug Huffman said:
Electric fences are low current at high voltage. Surplus phone generators are common and a better answer. How about a hot side 120 VAC from the mains, maybe with a light bulb current limiter. Dip the lead momentarily and shut off the supply.
That's what I was thinking. The basic requirement is fairly different for an electric fence and a fish electrocutor so I suspect the same device wouldn't do both jobs well.
As this is PF, I need to point our the Health and Safety issues here. Getting even a small electrical belt when you're in a tiny boat could turn a nice day out into a disaster. Make sure you use the right protocols for using such gear. I really don't like the idea of dipping a mains lead into water!
 
  • #44
Yes, this thread has become a discussion of a dangerous activity by a person who does not know that they are doing. As such, it violates the PF rules and is now closed.