Old music classics for our young members

[Evo]

This is about Jethro Tull and similar music from that time. Please post these in another music thread. We have a Best Songs thread.

Thanks.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=130401&page=111

 

[Andre]

Okay, I believe we are talking 1968,

Simon and Garfunkel, from the graduate

 

[Dembadon]

What is the domain of "young"?

 

[Evo]

What is the domain of "young"?

Born in the 80's.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I'm young but really like these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qve_dx2TMLU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ZGKALMMuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvnWuOjJDh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgaD54YcXpA

 

[zoobyshoe]

You missed my favorite Tull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2RNe2jwHE0

Actually Tull/Bach

 

[Andre]

Also from that time (1968)

Ralph McTell - Streets Of London



covered by about every artist after him, including...

Roger Witthaker 1970:


and Cat Stevens 1971 Moonshadow

 

[Dembadon]

Born in the 80's.

Drat!

 

[baywax]

This is about Jethro Tull and similar music from that time. Please post these in another music thread. We have a Best Songs thread.

Thanks.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=130401&page=111

My apologies gang..

 

[Proton Soup]

i think these qualify. the 25+6-4 may be recorded in 80s or 90s, tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSevt_i51w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ennMD1fPtXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSOaoPDO16Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTFD1C4tVIg

 

[baywax]

Here's one to make up for my foibles...

George Harrison says at the start of the video that the Beatles pretty well invented MTV with this deliberate music video from the 60s... enjoy this song and video, "Rain", by the Beatles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdrGS__yg6Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdrGS__yg6Q&feature=related

 

[zoobyshoe]

George Harrison says at the start of the video that the Beatles pretty well invented MTV with this deliberate music video from the 60s...

I have wondered what could be considered the first "music video" and I don't think "Rain" from 1966 is it, nor that the Beatles, themselves, created this style. Rather I think modern music video style was invented by Richard Lester, for the Beatles, when he directed their first movie "A Hard Day's Night".

This essay on the making of that film is pretty long, but worth it if you're interested in the origin of the modern music "video":

http://www.beatlesmovies.co.uk/hard-days-night/background.asp

I'll quote the operative part:

Prior to A Hard Day's Night, the majority of British and American pop musicals had relied upon the long established tradition of song performance derived from the classical Hollywood musical. Indeed, in the vehicles of Presley and Richard the genre’s central musical sequences were based on the lip-synched performance of songs by a solo singer or group which, occasionally combined with minimal onscreen backing sources (for example, in the case of the Presley cycle, his guitar), essentially attempted to articulate the illusion of ‘real’ authentic, diegetic, performance. While such performances were traditionally, and obviously necessarily, accompanied by non-diegetic background music (the 'unseen' musical accompaniment), the underlying importance of this formal aesthetic was to reproduce an illusory spectacle of ‘genuine’ performance, the key factor being the audience’s belief that the stars’ performances were authentic. However, Lester's partial employment of a humorous surrealism (and its resulting disposal of the conventionally ‘realist’ aesthetic) meant that it was no longer necessary, or, for that matter, uniformly desirable, to interpret the central musical numbers via conventionally representational sequences of performers miming to a backing track and pretending to play instruments. A Hard Day's Night is arguably the first film of its kind to stage central musical numbers which are not tied to performance.

While this approach is employed in the film's opening ‘chase’ sequence, it is also evident from the very first real musical number, ‘I Should Have Known Better’, where the first few verses of the song are accompanied by footage of the group playing cards in the baggage car of the train. Indeed, as with the film’s non-musical sequences, Lester was keen to break with uniform performance realism as early into the film as possible in order to ‘establish the principle that there would not just be realism’.26 However, the most pronounced example of this anti-realism can be seen towards the film’s closure, where ‘Can't Buy Me Love’ is used to accompany a sequence in which, freed from the confinements of their celebrity, the group cavort in a park. In this way, Lester’s film freed the representation of the musical number from its traditional generic slavery; he allowed the pop song the opportunity to work in a similar manner to conventional incidental music, as an abstract entity capable of punctuating action which is not performance-oriented. While this move was evidently prompted by a surrealist aesthetic, it ultimately owes more to the director’s need to convey the emotion inherent in the Beatles’ songs; while the surrealist aesthetic made such sequences ‘possible’, what made them desirable was Lester's feeling that performance was not necessarily adequate to convey meaning on an emotional level. Although he accepts that the film was the first pop musical to break with performance-oriented musical numbers, the director is quick to stress that the form of the musical sequences was ultimately a by-product of a desire to convey emotion. Lester modestly explains: ‘I don't think one ever sits down and says, “I'm going to do something which will change the face of musical history, and will be known in ten years time as MTV”... You don't do it for those reasons, you do it because you think “what do you need?” [emotionally] at this point.’

The Rain video is very much the same style as the musical sequences from A Hard Day's Night so, while the Beatles may have been the first to release a disembodied video (separate from a film), Lester created the unique style and it's been used in videos ever since.

 

[OmCheeto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15kWlTrpt5k

more rain...

but then again, after the rain, we all say; "Here comes the sun!"

as before, I never saw this video until just now, I just liked the music.

 

[Char. Limit]

Born in the 80's.

So then what does that make me, being born in 1992?

That said, since you so graciously provided "old" music for the "young" members (and those terms are totally subjective), here is some "young" music I enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bb8jUQl-_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynb8QKDF2xA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_kzsOWa-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWuZcWI2YVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUK2QmdUXas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xPaeONSn_8

What can I say, I'm a metalhead.

 

[baywax]

I have wondered what could be considered the first "music video" and I don't think "Rain" from 1966 is it, nor that the Beatles, themselves, created this style. Rather I think modern music video style was invented by Richard Lester, for the Beatles, when he directed their first movie "A Hard Day's Night".

This essay on the making of that film is pretty long, but worth it if you're interested in the origin of the modern music "video":

http://www.beatlesmovies.co.uk/hard-days-night/background.asp

I'll quote the operative part:



The Rain video is very much the same style as the musical sequences from A Hard Day's Night so, while the Beatles may have been the first to release a disembodied video (separate from a film), Lester created the unique style and it's been used in videos ever since.

Thank you Zooby Shoe... I realize that Hard Days Night was a complete marketing promotion of the Beatles first really popular tunes. But can't we say that about Doris Day's movies or Elvis' Jail House Rock or even "Singing In The Rain" with Gene Kelly?

What the short and to the point vignette of the Beatles "Rain" does is allow for slightly less of an attention span in the teenage or under population. They don't have to sit through 2 hours of running around on a train or in a studio to hear the ground breaking songs. They just get exactly what they want totally packaged up in a 1 song wonder of a clip.

So, although its tempting to compare Hard Days Night to a modern day video, its really no different from an Elvis movie or, as I've mentioned, a Doris Day flick.

Its when we see Rain offered as a visual and an aural sensation bundled into one, short experience that we begin to catch a glimpse of the future and the "music video".

 

[fuzzyfelt]

 

[B. Elliott]

Jethro Tull, here's the short version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNY0JuATpQ&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNY0JuATpQ

Definitely my favorite Jethro Tull song.

 

[turbo]

The REAL Black Magic Woman, performed by the man who wrote it (Peter Green) and the group that he formed (Fleetwood Mac). Santana's version is a poor imitation, IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWkqACt1Xi8

Another Peter Green classic. The young blond guy with the page-boy and the killer vibrato is Danny Kirwan, and the Hobbit with the maracas is Jeremy Spencer. These three guys were a force to be reckoned with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg

 

[flyingpig]

for a moment i thought he was singing in Japanese lol

 

[zoobyshoe]

Thank you Zooby Shoe

Interesting way of parsing it into a first and last name. Makes me wonder...

Its when we see Rain offered as a visual and an aural sensation bundled into one, short experience that we begin to catch a glimpse of the future and the "music video".

If the "one, short experience" is what you feel makes the music video a music video, then you're right. But you have to realize that without Lester that one, short experience might, to this day, simply consist of shots of the group performing the song.

For my money what's exiting about the music video is that you can get things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7K72X4eo_s

in which there is not one shot of the actual singer or instrumentalists. The visuals are all fantasy, but support the song perfectly.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I finally got over my obsession with finding "irish" rock music and started looking for other music. I wound up checking out some 60's-70's "garage rock" bands and wound up finding The Sonics.