On the application of the goodman equation to a multiaxial stress state

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the modified Goodman equation to a multiaxial stress state, particularly in the context of fatigue analysis. Participants explore how to adapt the equation to account for von Mises stress criteria and the implications for material properties.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the von Mises failure criterion can replace uniaxial stresses in the Goodman equation to account for multiaxial stress states and fatigue.
  • The same participant proposes that the uniaxial stress amplitude should be replaced with von Mises stress amplitude, and the fatigue limit should be adjusted accordingly.
  • Another participant agrees with the replacement of uniaxial stress amplitude with von Mises stress amplitude but disagrees with the adjustment of the fatigue limit, stating that fatigue strength is a material property and should not be modified.
  • There is agreement on replacing mean stress with mean von Mises stress.
  • Disagreement arises regarding the adjustment of ultimate stress, with one participant asserting that tensile ultimate strength is a material property and should not be altered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on some aspects of the application of the modified Goodman equation, such as the replacement of uniaxial stress amplitude and mean stress with their von Mises counterparts. However, there are competing views regarding the treatment of fatigue strength and ultimate stress, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of material properties in the context of the modified Goodman equation, particularly regarding the treatment of fatigue strength and ultimate stress. There are also references to potential errors in the initial equations presented.

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I don't quite understand how the modified goodman equation can be applied to a multiaxial stress state. The explanation given in my stress analysis class has been quite confusing and verbose so I've come here to see if I can't get a better understanding.

First I'll lay out what I think to be true:

Utilizing the Von-Mises failure criterion in place of the uni-axial stresses in the goodman equation should be able to account for a multiaxial stress state AND fatigue. Here's how I think it should work

Uni-axial stress amplitude is replaced with von-mises stress amplitude (same equation, different stresses)

The fatigue limit at whatever number of cycles the designer is concerned with is replaced with the Von-Mises stress at that stress amplitude. Or: (Uni-Axial Fatigue limit at X cycles)*(1/3)=fully reversed stress amplitude (or SIGMAar in the good man equation).

Mean stress is replaced with mean von-mises stress (same equation, different stresses)

Ultimate stress is replaced with (sqrt(2)/3)*SIGMA(u) or the von mises stress at failure.

Equations:
Goodman.jpg

That last equation should be sqrt(2)/3. Made a mistake when writing the equations. Thanks.
Is this correct?
 
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Actually you got the equations for stress amplitude (tau_a) and mean stress (tau_m) swapped, here.
 
Whitebread wrote:[/color] "Utilizing the von Mises failure criterion in place of the uniaxial stresses in the [modified] Goodman equation should be able to account for a multiaxial stress state and fatigue. Here's how I think it should work. Uniaxial stress amplitude is replaced with von Mises stress amplitude."[/color]

Agreed.

Whitebread wrote:[/color] "The fatigue limit at whatever number of cycles the designer is concerned with is replaced with the von Mises stress at that stress amplitude. Or, (uniaxial fatigue limit at N cycles)*(1/3) = fully reversed stress amplitude (or sigma_ar in the [modified] Goodman equation)."[/color]

Disagree. Fatigue strength is a material property, not a von Mises stress. The fatigue strength should not be adjusted.

Whitebread wrote:[/color] "Mean stress is replaced with mean von Mises stress."[/color]

Agreed.

Whitebread wrote:[/color] "Ultimate stress is replaced with (sqrt(2)/3)*sigma_u, or the von Mises stress at failure."[/color]

Disagree. Tensile ultimate (mean) strength, Stu, is a material property, not a von Mises stress, and should not be adjusted.

A similar question is posted at thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=304749" .
 
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Well its been a while. Since I posted and the project I posted it for was long since been turned in. Thanks for the input and the link though. Its quite helpful since this information just doesn't seem to be recorded anywhere.
 

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