One-to-many relations in group theory

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The discussion revolves around the relationships between the groups Spin(n) and SO(n) in the context of group theory, specifically focusing on the nature of one-to-many and many-to-one relations between these groups. Participants explore the implications of these relationships and the associated mappings, touching on concepts such as neighborhood isomorphism and covering spaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a relationship between Spin(n) and SO(n) as a 2-to-1 mapping, indicating a double covering of SO(n) by Spin(n) when n ≠ 2.
  • Another participant clarifies that while functions can be one-to-one or many-to-one, binary relations can be one-to-many, suggesting a theoretical connection between a base space and a covering space.
  • A participant seeks to understand how to express the inverse relation, specifically the one-to-many relation from SO(n) to Spin(n), while preserving neighborhood isomorphism.
  • One suggestion is to map each element onto the set of possible values, although the implications of this approach are not fully explored.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship in terms of transformations in SO(n) and their corresponding elements in Spin(n), referencing the Clifford algebra and its relation to orthogonal transformations, while expressing uncertainty about their understanding of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the mappings between Spin(n) and SO(n), with some uncertainty about the correct terminology and implications of one-to-many relations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise formulation of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of the underlying mathematical concepts, such as the Clifford algebra and the nature of orthogonal transformations, which may affect the clarity of their arguments.

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Mappings from one group to another
I apologize for the simple question, but it has been bothering me. One can write a relationship between groups, such as for example between Spin##(n)## and SO##(n)## as follows:

\begin{equation}
1 \rightarrow \{-1,+1 \} \rightarrow \text{Spin}(n) \rightarrow \text{SO}(n) \rightarrow 1
\end{equation}
when ##n \neq 2##

In this context, Spin##(n)## is the double covering of SO##(n)##, which, as far as I understand, means there is a 2-to-1 mapping from Spin##(n)## to SO##(n)## with neighborhood isomorphism between the groups.

How would one write the inverse relation, i.e., the many-to-one relation between groups. In the case of SO##(n)## and Spin##(n)##, how would one write the the 1-to-2 relation from SO##(n)## to Spin##(n)## where neighborhood isomorphism is preserved?
 
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Just to be clear. I understand that a function or mapping can be one-to-one or many-to-one but cannot be one-to-many. However, a binary relation can be one-to-many, such that a binary relation theoretically could connect a base space to a covering space.
 
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redtree said:
How would one write the inverse relation, i.e., the many-to-one relation between groups. In the case of SO##(n)## and Spin##(n)##, how would one write the the 1-to-2 relation from SO##(n)## to Spin##(n)## where neighborhood isomorphism is preserved?
I switched terms. It should read as follows:

How would one write the inverse relation, i.e., the one-to-many relation between groups. In the case of SO##(n)## and Spin##(n)##, how would one write the the 1-to-2 relation from SO##(n)## to Spin##(n)## where neighborhood isomorphism is preserved?
 
Why not map each element onto the set of possible values?
 
as paul colby says, this reduces to finding, for each transformation in SO(n), the 2 elements of Spin that map to that element. Spoiler alert: I know nothing about this stuff, not even what the clifford algebra is, BUT I scanned the wikipedia article on this topic, and one can get some insight from it. I.e. the clifford algebra, or rather the spin group built from it, has as elements, certain formal products of elements of a vector space V, and the target group SO(n) consists of orthogonal transformations of that space. The key remark to me, in that wiki article, says that in the special case of products with only one factor x of V, i.e. elements of degree one, the target transformation is the reflection in the hyperplane orthogonal to the vector x. Since a hyperplane has two unit length orthogonal vectors, this gives the two preimages of that reflection. Now since more general elements are obtained by taking products of more factors, and the map is a homomorphism, presumably an orhogonal transformation which is a composition of reflections, has as preimage the product of their orthogonal unit vectors. Presumably the equivalence relation on the spin group makes those products of vectors equivalent except for minus, so there are two preimages. Moreover, perhaps every orthogonal transformation in SO(n) is a composition of reflectiopns, not necessarily orthogonal, i.e. consists of orthognal reflections and rotations, and possibly the preimages are products of the unit orthogonal vectors of these hyperp[lanes.

remember, I did not actually learn this stuff before positing this answer, but at least the part quoted from wikipedia is probably right, that the inverse image of a reflection is the two orthogonal unit vectors of the hyperplane fixed by the reflection.
 

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