Only one of two browsers finds physicsforums

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In summary: Google Chrome will not let me visit www.physicsforums.com, instead showing me:In summary, Google Chrome will not let me visit www.physicsforums.com, instead showing me: "Its Just You" (meaning, "me"), that physicsforums is up. Firefox let's me visit and sign into physicsforums just fine. Try to access PF in Chrome in incognito mode.
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This works for me. . .
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Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, DiscussionThis works, also. . .

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Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, Discussion
Lol, this doesn't seem to work. . .

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Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, DiscussionOh, almost forgot. . .

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So far the remedy seems still to have fixed the trouble.

This remedy was as I described:
  1. Deleted the physicforums bookmark from Google Chrome
  2. I believe I did visit some other site or two, and then
  3. Made new bookmark upon another visit to physicsforums

Now, visits to physicsforums still seem to be working.
 
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This all stems because people are lazy to write the www part and so browser manufacturers started to put it automatically in front of anything we type in the browser bar. I wish technology would just do what it's asked and not try and "Guess" what it thinks we wanted it to do.
 
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MikeeMiracle said:
This all stems because people are lazy to write the www part and so browser manufacturers started to put it automatically in front of anything we type in the browser bar. I wish technology would just do what it's asked and not try and "Guess" what it thinks we wanted it to do.
Well, what technology is asked to do is to take on tasks that are onerous for humans to do. That's the raison d'etre of most technology.
(Removing steps that are repetitive is one such onerous task).

Such time-saving tasks are always a compromise.
To take the initiative helps most of time and hinders only rarely.
To not take the initiative hinders most of the time and helps only rarely.

On average, more time (a lot more) is saved by taking the initiative to eliminate repetitive steps.

The rule in software design is "design for the 80% use case".If designers weren't continually trying to make a better experience for humans, we'd still be coding in machine language.
 
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I had the same problem here, Chrome in incognito mode or IE in private mode, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Using links that I haven't changed in years, and no recent updates to Chrome that I'm aware of. I edited the link, removing the trailing "/", from "https://www.physicsforums.com/" to "https://www.physicsforums.com", which solved the problem. I haven't encountered this issue with any other web sites (yet).
 
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rcgldr said:
I had the same problem here, Chrome in incognito mode or IE in private mode, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Using links that I haven't changed in years, and no recent updates to Chrome that I'm aware of. I edited the link, removing the trailing "/", from "https://www.physicsforums.com/" to "https://www.physicsforums.com", which solved the problem. I haven't encountered this issue with any other web sites (yet).
There is no slash in the domain name URL. Add the slash and it's technically a different page. This is as expected. However, it should redirect to non-slash.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
There is no slash in the domain name URL.
Interesting. . .

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More interesting. . .

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Why the slash on that one ?No slash in the address bar, either. . .

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OMG. . . you'll get my passwords. . 😧

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Lol...

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Looking in Google Chrome and in Bookmarks Manager, and picking physicsforu site, Edit Bookmark, what is now listed while AFTER I had newly set this bookmark as described recently and been working well:

https://www.physicsforums.com/

I now also wonder, if the possible lack of the "s" for "secure" was important before resetting the new bookmark? I have no way to see what was stored before since I did not look carefully at that detail.
 
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I have just tried using Chrome by typing in www.physicsforums.com into the address bar and got the same result as in post #6. Trying it again in a new tab loaded normally. Copying and pasting the displayed address into Notepad showed the added www. in the first case. Subsequent attempts loaded normally until I deleted the browsing history and tried again. Trying with the https:// included loaded normally.
 
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@Greg Bernhardt there is a problem in the configuration of your HTTPS redirect. An HTTP request to http://www.physicsforums.com/ (see note below) is being responded to with the following (which is all OK apart from the additional www. in the last line):
Code:
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 706
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:05:43 GMT
Server: LiteSpeed
Location: https://www.www.physicsforums.com/
(see also Firefox developer tools capture at the bottom of this message).

Note that a terminating slash is ALWAYS present in a valid HTTP request to an HTTP host regardless of what is displayed in the browser bar. This is because the underlying (HTTP/1.1) message has the following structure:
Code:
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.physicsforums.com
See https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.2.1 "... If the abs_path is not present in the URL, it MUST be given as "/" when used as a Request-URI for a resource".

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pbuk said:
Note that a terminating slash is ALWAYS present in a valid HTTP request to an HTTP host regardless of what is displayed in the browser bar. This is because the underlying (HTTP/1.1) message has the following structure:
It is present, but the browser strips it out.

I see the redirect adding the second www. Not sure why that is happening, need to test.

Here is my code:

Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off [OR]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\. [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(.*)$  [NC]

RewriteRule (.*) https://www.%1/$1 [R=301,L]

%1 must be returning the www too
 
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I removed %1 and manually entered physicsforums.com in and now the header is fixed. Can everyone else test and see the problem is resolved?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I removed %1 and manually entered physicsforums.com in and now the header is fixed. Can everyone else test and see the problem is resolved?
Yes that should work, and you can now remove the third line too as you are no longer using that capture.
 
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Yes, working normally now,
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I removed %1 and manually entered physicsforums.com in and now the header is fixed. Can everyone else test and see the problem is resolved?
Hi Greg,
I have waited to reply until network issues at my end were fixed. All my browsers -- Chrome, Firefox, and Explorer -- work fine logging into PF in private / incognito mode. The extra www prepend has not reoccurred even without deleting old bookmarks.
Good fix!

My network problems involved extremely slow Inet downloads, glacial handshaking and ultra slow data transfers at most common websites such as digital newspapers, weather maps and initial Youtube requests. PF performed rather well by comparison. My carrier, Cox Communications, claimed that increased Inet usage due to more users at home was overwhelming their systems nationwide.

Under social distancing guidelines, the Cox techs could not enter my home. I took pictures of the inside wiring and equipment. We troubleshot on the front porch. Cox replaced external parts and exchanged my network router with their latest 5G model.

After updating my wireless devices to use the new router and rebooting my laptop with the latest Microsoft patches; my computer, digital TV and cell phone internet connections are as fast as I have seen even with increased traffic. Not certain if this is because my old router was deteriorating or a case of "squeaky wheel gets the grease" but I can finally appreciate the 5G network.

PF runs super-fast today. I will essay some empirical tests tomorrow.
 
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