Only one of two browsers finds physicsforums

[sysprog]

I wanted to suggest also doing a setting of another bookmark, to another site, after deleting the PF bookmark, and before re-creating your PF bookmark, but hey, bookmarking the PFs is, in my view, a very good idea, because, at least in my view, it's a great site, and I think that I'm not just being a kiss-up in saying that -- I'm genuinely happy to be allowed to be here. I also suggest that you should omit the www from your bookmark -- it's no longer required, and if the code somehow prepends it, you're less likely to get redundant inclusion of it if you haven't typed it in, so maybe set your bookmark like this: http://physicsforums.com

 

[Klystron]

Updated and corrected my original post in this thread. I think we agree despite the thread title that this problem is browser independent. I have not had opportunity to try all the tools suggested by members but classify this as a general auto-fill problem:

Under some conditions an extraneous www. is appended to the fully formed PF address.

Domain name services cannot recognize or handle the www.www. Strange this gets passed through.

 

[symbolipoint]

I wanted to suggest also doing a setting of another bookmark, to another site, after deleting the PF bookmark, and before re-creating your PF bookmark, but hey, bookmarking the PFs is, in my view, a very good idea, because, at least in my view, it's a great site, and I think that I'm not just being a kiss-up in saying that -- I'm genuinely happy to be allowed to be here. I also suggest that you should omit the www from your bookmark -- it's no longer required, and if the code somehow prepends it, you're less likely to get redundant inclusion of it if you haven't typed it in, so maybe set your bookmark like this: http://physicsforums.com

That would require some editing but is worth trying.

 

[mathman]

This may not help, but I had no problem (using one www). My browser is Avant via Chrome, but my test was with Chrome directly.

 

[DaveC426913]

Fun fact:

The World Wide Web has the dubiously unique distinction of (probably) being the only word in human language whose abbreviated form is (much) longer than its expanded form.

double-yoo double-yoo double-yoo (9 syllables)
World Wide Web (3 syllables)

 

[OCR]

This works for me. . .

Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, DiscussionThis works, also. . .

Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, Discussion
Lol, this doesn't seem to work. . .

Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, DiscussionOh, almost forgot. . .

.

 

[symbolipoint]

So far the remedy seems still to have fixed the trouble.

This remedy was as I described:

1. Deleted the physicforums bookmark from Google Chrome
2. I believe I did visit some other site or two, and then
3. Made new bookmark upon another visit to physicsforums

Now, visits to physicsforums still seem to be working.

 

[MikeeMiracle]

This all stems because people are lazy to write the www part and so browser manufacturers started to put it automatically in front of anything we type in the browser bar. I wish technology would just do what it's asked and not try and "Guess" what it thinks we wanted it to do.

 

[DaveC426913]

This all stems because people are lazy to write the www part and so browser manufacturers started to put it automatically in front of anything we type in the browser bar. I wish technology would just do what it's asked and not try and "Guess" what it thinks we wanted it to do.

Well, what technology is asked to do is to take on tasks that are onerous for humans to do. That's the raison d'etre of most technology.
(Removing steps that are repetitive is one such onerous task).

Such time-saving tasks are always a compromise.
To take the initiative helps most of time and hinders only rarely.
To not take the initiative hinders most of the time and helps only rarely.

On average, more time (a lot more) is saved by taking the initiative to eliminate repetitive steps.

The rule in software design is "design for the 80% use case".If designers weren't continually trying to make a better experience for humans, we'd still be coding in machine language.

 

[rcgldr]

I had the same problem here, Chrome in incognito mode or IE in private mode, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Using links that I haven't changed in years, and no recent updates to Chrome that I'm aware of. I edited the link, removing the trailing "/", from "https://www.physicsforums.com/" to "https://www.physicsforums.com", which solved the problem. I haven't encountered this issue with any other web sites (yet).

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I had the same problem here, Chrome in incognito mode or IE in private mode, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Using links that I haven't changed in years, and no recent updates to Chrome that I'm aware of. I edited the link, removing the trailing "/", from "https://www.physicsforums.com/" to "https://www.physicsforums.com", which solved the problem. I haven't encountered this issue with any other web sites (yet).

There is no slash in the domain name URL. Add the slash and it's technically a different page. This is as expected. However, it should redirect to non-slash.

 

[OCR]

There is no slash in the domain name URL.

Interesting. . .

More interesting. . .

Why the slash on that one ?No slash in the address bar, either. . .

OMG. . . you'll get my passwords. .

Lol...[/size]

.

 

[symbolipoint]

Looking in Google Chrome and in Bookmarks Manager, and picking physicsforu site, Edit Bookmark, what is now listed while AFTER I had newly set this bookmark as described recently and been working well:

https://www.physicsforums.com/

I now also wonder, if the possible lack of the "s" for "secure" was important before resetting the new bookmark? I have no way to see what was stored before since I did not look carefully at that detail.

 

[darth boozer]

I have just tried using Chrome by typing in www.physicsforums.com into the address bar and got the same result as in post #6. Trying it again in a new tab loaded normally. Copying and pasting the displayed address into Notepad showed the added www. in the first case. Subsequent attempts loaded normally until I deleted the browsing history and tried again. Trying with the https:// included loaded normally.

 

[pbuk]

@Greg Bernhardt there is a problem in the configuration of your HTTPS redirect. An HTTP request to http://www.physicsforums.com/ (see note below) is being responded to with the following (which is all OK apart from the additional www. in the last line):

HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 706
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:05:43 GMT
Server: LiteSpeed
Location: https://www.www.physicsforums.com/

(see also Firefox developer tools capture at the bottom of this message).

Note that a terminating slash is ALWAYS present in a valid HTTP request to an HTTP host regardless of what is displayed in the browser bar. This is because the underlying (HTTP/1.1) message has the following structure:

GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.physicsforums.com

See https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.2.1 "... If the abs_path is not present in the URL, it MUST be given as "/" when used as a Request-URI for a resource".

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Note that a terminating slash is ALWAYS present in a valid HTTP request to an HTTP host regardless of what is displayed in the browser bar. This is because the underlying (HTTP/1.1) message has the following structure:

It is present, but the browser strips it out.

I see the redirect adding the second www. Not sure why that is happening, need to test.

Here is my code:

RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off [OR]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\. [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(.*)$  [NC]

RewriteRule (.*) https://www.%1/$1 [R=301,L]

%1 must be returning the www too

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I removed %1 and manually entered physicsforums.com in and now the header is fixed. Can everyone else test and see the problem is resolved?

 

[pbuk]

I removed %1 and manually entered physicsforums.com in and now the header is fixed. Can everyone else test and see the problem is resolved?

Yes that should work, and you can now remove the third line too as you are no longer using that capture.

 

[darth boozer]

Yes, working normally now,

 

[Klystron]

I removed %1 and manually entered physicsforums.com in and now the header is fixed. Can everyone else test and see the problem is resolved?

Hi Greg,
I have waited to reply until network issues at my end were fixed. All my browsers -- Chrome, Firefox, and Explorer -- work fine logging into PF in private / incognito mode. The extra www prepend has not reoccurred even without deleting old bookmarks.
Good fix!

My network problems involved extremely slow Inet downloads, glacial handshaking and ultra slow data transfers at most common websites such as digital newspapers, weather maps and initial Youtube requests. PF performed rather well by comparison. My carrier, Cox Communications, claimed that increased Inet usage due to more users at home was overwhelming their systems nationwide.

Under social distancing guidelines, the Cox techs could not enter my home. I took pictures of the inside wiring and equipment. We troubleshot on the front porch. Cox replaced external parts and exchanged my network router with their latest 5G model.

After updating my wireless devices to use the new router and rebooting my laptop with the latest Microsoft patches; my computer, digital TV and cell phone internet connections are as fast as I have seen even with increased traffic. Not certain if this is because my old router was deteriorating or a case of "squeaky wheel gets the grease" but I can finally appreciate the 5G network.

PF runs super-fast today. I will essay some empirical tests tomorrow.