Op-Amp Integrator: Understand 10MOhm Feedback Resistor

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The discussion centers on the significance of the 10MOhm feedback resistor in an op-amp integrator circuit. The resistor prevents a small constant voltage from appearing at the inverting input, which would otherwise be integrated, leading to saturation of the op-amp. The feedback resistor limits the gain at DC to 100, avoiding infinite gain that could result from small input offsets. Understanding the role of this resistor is crucial for deriving the transfer function and ensuring the circuit functions correctly as an integrator.

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Hi,
I was assigned a lab that requires me to build the attached circuit and show how the output signal is the integral of the input signal. Basically I can't understand what the function of the 10MOhm feedback resistor is. Its giving me a headache when I try to derive my proof for the integrator, and part of the lab is to explain its significance and what would happen if it were removed.

I don't know if I should be posting this in homework help but this isn't really a math question so I figured I could try here 1st.

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Try tackling the problem systematically...

Convert the circuit to the Laplacian equvilent (i.e. C becomes 1/(Cs) and derive the transfer function. The only special things you have to remember are:

a. For an ideal op-amp, the currents entering the inverting and non-inverting terminals is zero.
b. For an ideal op-amp, the voltage between the inverting and non-inverting terminals is zero.

Clue: In the s domain, a 1/s denotes an intergral.

Try this and see if it makes more sense to you.
 
Or that the voltage across a cap:

Vc = \frac{1}{C} \int i_c dt
 
The R(f)=10M\Omega resistor is there to make sure you do not have a small constant voltage on the inverted input (this would be integrated and you don’t want that). You can show that there is a frequency where the impedance of the capacitor equals the impedance of the R(f) resistor. Over this frequency the circuit acts as an integrator, so you can try to neglect that resistor in your calculations
 
The feedback resistor limis the gain at DC to 100. If it was not there the theoretical gain at DC would be infinit. Any small input offset would cause an integration that would eventually saturate the op amp. Then all the usual assumptions about op amps go to H@$^*.
Joe
 

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