Operations Research for Physics Majors: Is it Worth It?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the value of taking a course in operations research for physics majors, particularly those interested in pursuing graduate studies in theoretical physics or cosmology. Participants explore the relevance of operations research to physics, its mathematical components, and its applicability to real-world problems.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of operations research for physics majors, suggesting that the math needed for theoretical physics can be learned elsewhere.
  • Others argue that operations research covers discrete optimization problems, which could be beneficial for software development related to quantitative analysis.
  • A participant notes that the value of the course depends on its content, indicating that the project management aspects may not be relevant, while the mathematical components could provide useful skills in probability and statistics.
  • Another participant expresses that operations research might be more applicable for managing physicists or experiments rather than directly understanding physical phenomena.
  • One participant mentions that the course description includes topics like linear programming and the simplex method, which they believe may be useful despite their existing background in statistics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the value of operations research for physics majors. There are multiple competing views regarding its relevance and applicability, with some advocating for its potential benefits and others expressing skepticism about its direct usefulness in understanding physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of course content and its alignment with the interests and career goals of physics majors. There is an acknowledgment of the varying rigor and theoretical relevance of operations research courses.

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Just out of curiosity, would a class in operations research be worth the time for someone majoring in physics, hoping to go to graduate school for theoretical physics/cosmology?
 
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I don't see how.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_research

If you are interested, by all means take the class, a plan B is always welcome, but you shouldn't have to go there to learn the math you need in theoretical physics.

Of course, it can depend on what type of work you want to do once you graduate.
 
Operations research is concerned with all kinds of discrete optimization problems. Having a basic knowledge in this field is generally a useful skill to have if you will be developing software for quantitative purposes (say, calculating models, data analysis, etc). You'd be surprised at how often network optimization and routing problems occur.
 
It depends what sort of course it is. The "project management" side of OR probably won't teach you anything relevant, and might not challenge you intellectually either. The more mathematical side (queuing theory, etc) might teach you some useful probability and statistics, but if you want to learn statistics, then why not do a statistics course instead?
 
AlephZero said:
It depends what sort of course it is. The "project management" side of OR probably won't teach you anything relevant, and might not challenge you intellectually either. The more mathematical side (queuing theory, etc) might teach you some useful probability and statistics, but if you want to learn statistics, then why not do a statistics course instead?

What you imply about the rigor and theoretical relevance of a general OR course is true, especially for a physics major.

However, the OR course can still be considered because it should be interesting and very relevant to "real-life" problems. If you want to see how applied maths and stochastics are used to model and solve problems, then do take the course.
 
Dr Lots-o'watts said:
I don't see how.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_research

If you are interested, by all means take the class, a plan B is always welcome, but you shouldn't have to go there to learn the math you need in theoretical physics.

Of course, it can depend on what type of work you want to do once you graduate.

Thanks all for the responses.

I agree at first it didn't look all that interesting, but the class description states "After a brief historical introduction, presents a detailed study of mathematics related to linear programming. The theory includes the simplex method, duality theory, sensitivity analysis, and matrix games."

I already have a solid background in statistics and looking up each individual area listed seemed like it "may" be useful at some point.
 
I have no doubt it is useful, and it can surely be interesting. But in relation to physics, I suspect it is more useful for managing (many) physicists or perhaps experiments involving very many parameters, than for understanding natural phenomena directly ("physics" itself). It seems like a rather indirect way of learning the math required to understand conventional and current theories. I'd go for core physics first, and then this stuff later on, as needed.
 

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