Optimization of a folded piece of paper

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on optimizing the area of a right triangle formed by folding an 8.5in by 11in piece of paper. The area A is defined as A = 1/2(xy), with the relationship x² + y² = (8.5 - y)². Participants suggest simplifying the equation before substitution to find the maximum area, emphasizing the importance of correctly calculating the derivative da/dx to identify critical points for optimization.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic geometry and triangle area calculations
  • Familiarity with calculus, specifically derivatives and optimization techniques
  • Knowledge of algebraic manipulation and simplification of equations
  • Experience with graphical analysis of functions and critical points
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the method of Lagrange multipliers for constrained optimization
  • Learn about the application of derivatives in maximizing functions
  • Explore graphical methods for visualizing area optimization problems
  • Investigate the implications of critical points in calculus
USEFUL FOR

Students in mathematics, particularly those studying calculus and geometry, as well as educators looking for practical examples of optimization problems.

doug1122
Messages
1
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



If you take an 8.5in by 11in piece of paper and fold one corner over so it just touches the opposite edge as seen in figure (http://wearpete.com/myprob.jpg ). Find the value of x that makes the area of the right triangle A a maximum?

Homework Equations


A = 1/2(xy)
x2+y2=(8.5-y)2

The Attempt at a Solution


x2+y2=(8.5-y)2
x = sqrt((8.5-y)2-y2)
A = 1/2(y)(sqrt((8.5-y)2-y2))
da/dx = ((y2-4.25y)/sqrt((8.5-y)2-y2))+1/2(sqrt(-17y-72.25))
I know that at da/dx=0 the triangle is maximized but da/dx is undefined at y=0 (y graphically). I am pretty sure my derivative is right but maybe I missed something there. Thanks for taking a look.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
at y = 0, the area will be zero, so i wouldn't be too concerned about that point

your method is ok, but could be simplified a bit... try muliplying out the RHS of your equation and simplifyng before substituting in
x^2+y^2=(8.5-y)^2

let 8.5 = c if it makes it easier
x^2+y^2=(c-y)^2
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
6K
Replies
5
Views
10K