Optimizing Truss Design for Pipeline Support: Initial Analysis Methods

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the initial analysis methods for optimizing a truss design intended to support a pipeline. Participants explore the application of force equilibrium and the interpretation of free body diagrams (FBD) in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is redesigning a truss structure for pipeline support and questions the validity of their force equilibrium analysis, which yielded a force result that seems inconsistent with expectations.
  • Another participant requests clarification on how the initial force value of 93 kN was derived and asks for the free body diagram (FBD) used in the analysis.
  • A participant shares their FBD, indicating a presumed force value of 81 kN and a calculated force of -93.533 kN, expressing doubt about the correctness of this result.
  • One participant suggests that additional factors, such as the moment at the fixed point of the pipe and its own weight, should be considered for a more comprehensive analysis.
  • A later reply acknowledges the input received and reflects on the necessity of the initial assumptions made in the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the initial analysis method and the derived force values. There is no consensus on the correctness of the approach or the results obtained.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions in the analysis, the need for additional parameters like moments and weights, and the ambiguity in the interpretation of the forces involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Engineers and students involved in structural design, particularly those focusing on truss analysis and pipeline support systems.

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I am attempting to redesign a truss structure for a pipeline support. I would like to find out how best to go about the initial analysis. I have attached a drawing of the pipeline in question and labelled the axial force I am working with. The pipeline is at 60° and the shaded area shows the kind of reaction the pipe will have under this kind of force. I have initially performed force equilibrium to try and find the force perpendicular to the pipe that the pipe support will need to manage. However, its given me a suspicious answer of around 93isH kN - more than the axial load and I am not convinced.

Could anyone give some advice. Whether equilibrium of forces is the wrong or right way to go for this type of problem.

Thanks in advance
 

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How do u get 93?? How is ur FBD?
 
Hi,

I have attached my FBD. Fc was presumed to be 81kN which worked out and Fb came out to be -93.533kN. So the force arrow according to the FBD would flip back on its self. To me this does not look correct.

Maybe this is the wrong method to use for this problem. Or maybe I missing something. Any thoughts?
 

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Hi.

Im not sure if i understand the Fc. Anyway the simplets way i think i would look at is this way(se attachement).
Else i would think you would need to know the moment at the fixed point of the pipe and length and own weight and so on the more stuff could be calculated.

Hope it helped you :)

Might be errors kinda late :)
 

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I was using Fc as the pipe from the initial point Fa. I guess it wasn't really necessary to do it that way.

Thanks for your input it has helped.
:)
 
Glad it helped you. :)
 

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