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The discussion centers on the complexities of refraction and the possibility of creating a prism with a negative index of refraction. Participants reference the concept of negative-index metamaterials, highlighting their existence and potential applications. The conversation also touches on the use of lenses in educational settings, specifically in physics labs, where air-filled lenses are utilized for measurements in water tanks. The importance of accurate illustrations in scientific literature is emphasized, noting that many published images are misleading.

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splitting white light, and turns out refraction is... complicated

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Would it be possible to make a prism with a negative index of refraction?
 
One of those images must be a triangular hole through a large block of glass.
 
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Hornbein said:
Would it be possible to make a prism with a negative index of refraction?
Used them - well, actually senses, but the same idea - in a freshman physics lab I taught. They are air filled, and you make the measurements in a water tank. Concave is focusing.
 
I think this is the most popular version :wink:
(over 45 million sold according to wikipedia)

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Frabjous said:
I think this is the most popular version :wink:
I read somewhere recently, that is the most widely recognized "logo" worldwide.
 
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Its sad to see that the illustrations are either poor or flat out wrong and that they got published anyway.
 
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gmax137 said:
I read somewhere
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the most widely recognized "logo" worldwide.
I'm not sure I buy that. There's some stiff competition.
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Vanadium 50 said:
Used them - well, actually senses, but the same idea - in a freshman physics lab I taught. They are air filled, and you make the measurements in a water tank. Concave is focusing.
I presume you meant lenses.
I recall teaching a sound lab using convex mylar helium filled balloons in air as diverging lenses.

There are general principles that make the light dispersion itself monotonic. As I recall this follows from the Kramers-Kronig relations.
 
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I presume you meant lenses.
Yes, thanks.
 

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