Order of zero (complex analysis)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the order of zeros in complex analysis, particularly how it relates to the roots of equations and the differentiation of functions. Participants explore definitions, examples, and implications of the order of zeros for various types of functions, including polynomials and products of functions.

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  • One participant defines a zero of order m at z0 using derivatives and provides examples, noting that for polynomials, the order of zeros corresponds to the multiplicity of roots.
  • Another participant agrees that for polynomials, the multiplicity of repeated roots matches the order of the zero, explaining how to confirm this through differentiation.
  • A participant introduces a product rule for zeros, suggesting that if f(z) = g(z)h(z), where g(z) and h(z) have zeros of orders n and m respectively at a0, then f(z) has a zero of order n+m at a0.
  • A later reply questions the necessity of the product rule, referencing a theorem that simplifies the understanding of the order of zeros when multiplying functions.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and implications of the order of zeros for polynomials, but there is some uncertainty regarding the application of these concepts to more complex functions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity of differentiation in all cases.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the applicability of their findings to non-polynomial functions and the implications of differentiating those functions to determine the order of zeros.

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I'm confused about how this related to the roots of an equation. Here's the definition:

We say that ##f## has a zero of order ##m## at ##z_0## if
##f^{(k)}(z_0)=0## for ##k=0,\dots , m-1##, but ##f^{(m)}(z_0)\ne 0##
or equivalently that
##f(z) = \sum_{k=m}^\infty a_k(z-z_0)^k##, ##a_m \ne 0##.

For example the function ##(z^2+z-2)^3## has zeros of order ##3## for ##z=2## and ##z=-1## which is the multiple of the roots so the easiest way to determine the order seems to just note this instead of differentiating ##4## times.

However for a function like ##z^2(1-\cos z)## this doesn't work anymore. If you differentiate this you actually find a zero of order ##4## at ##z=0## and zeros of order ##2## at ##z = 2\pi n, \; = \pm 1, \pm 2, \dots## which isn't what I would expect just looking for roots to the equation.

So when determining the order of a zero is the approach always to differentiate? Since for simple functions like polynomials they seem to be the same as the roots.
 
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I take it you mean for your example:
##f(z) = (z^2 + z -2) ^ 3## has zeros at ## z=-2, 1##.
For polynomials, you are correct that the multiplicity of the repeated roots is the same as the order of the zero at those roots.
Example:
##p(z)=(z-z_0)^m (z-z_1)^n ## has a root of multiplicity m at ## z=z_0## and a root of multiplicity n at ## z = z_1##.

If you look at the derivatives up to the (m-1)th, you will notice that all the terms will include at least one power of ##(z-z_0)##.
However, the mth derivative will have one term where the ##(z-z_0)## has been reduced to a constant times ##(z-z_1)^n ##.
Assuming that ##z_0 \neq z_1##, this means that the order of the zero at ##z=z_0## is m.

Therefore, you can show, in general, for all polynomials that the multiplicity of a root is the same as the order of the zero at that root.If you differentiate your example, you get:
## f^1(z) = 3(z^2 + z -2)^2 (2z + 1) ## which as zeros at ## z=-2, 1## and also ##z=-1/2##.
And again,
## f^2(z) = 6(z^2 + z -2) (2z + 1)^2 + 6(z^2 + z -2)^2## which as zeros at ## z=-2, 1## and not ##z=-1/2##.
Once more:
## f^3(z) = 6 (2z + 1)^3+24(z^2 + z -2) (2z + 1) + 12(z^2 + z -2)(2z+1)## has a zero at ##z=-1/2## and not ## z=-2, 1##
So, using the derivative test, you confirm that -2 and 1 are zeros of order 3.
 
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Thanks! Writing it that way make it pretty obvious for polynomials.

From your example (and my second one) it also seems we have a product rule, that is if ##f(z) = g(z)h(z)## and ##g(z)## has a zero at ##a_0## of order ##n## and ##h(z)## have a zero of order ##m## at ##a_0## then ##f(z)## have a zero of order ##n+m## at ##a_0##.

This seem to follow from Leibniz rule , ##f^{(n+m-1)}=(gh)^{(n+m-1)} = \sum_{k=0}^{n+m-1} \binom{n+m-1}{k} g^{(k)}h^{(n+m-1-k)}## , since ##g^{(k)}= 0## for all ##k < n## while ##h^{(n+m-k)}=0## for ##n\le k \le (n+m-1)## hence every term is zero. Similar applies for every higher derivative in between ##0## and ##(n+m-1)##.
While for the next order ##(n+m)## we have the only non-zero term ##f^{(n)}g^{(m)}## left.
 
Never mind second half of my post, apparently there's a really obvious way to see this directly.
From the theorem stating that:
If ##f## has a zero of order ##m## at ##z_0##, then ##f(z) = (z-z_0)^mg(z)##, where ##g## is analytic in ##D## and ##g(z_0) \ne 0##. This makes it really obvious when multiplying two functions, and also the polynomial part.

Anyway thanks again for the explanation, I believe I understand the order of zeros now!
 
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