Ordinary or partial differential equation

  • #1
8
0

Homework Statement


x(d^2y/dx^2)+dx/dt+xy=0

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution


At first I thought it was an ODE, but then I found out the derivative was respect to to variables x and t.
I am not sure if it is an ODE or PDE. What are the dependent and independent variables in the equation? Is it linear?
 
Last edited:

Answers and Replies

  • #2
Simon Bridge
Science Advisor
Homework Helper
17,874
1,655
Written like this: $$x\frac{d^2}{dx^2}y + \frac{d}{dt}x + xy = 0$$... then we can conclude that y is a function of x and x is a function of t. i.e. ##y(t)=y\big(x(t)\big)## is the solution.
This happens a lot in physics where you happen to know dx/dt by some other means.

If it were a partial DE then you'd expect to see dy/dx and dy/dt - telling up that y is a function of both x and t separately and we can write y as y(x,t).

Where did you find this equation, in what context?
 
Last edited:
  • #3
8
0
Written like this: $$x\frac{d^2}{dx^2}y + \frac{d}{dt}x + xy = 0$$... then we can conclude that y is a function of x and x is a function of t. i.e. ##y(t)=y\big(x(t)\big)## is the solution.
This happens a lot in physics where you happen to know dx/dt by some other means.

If it were a partial DE then you'd expect to see dy/dx and dy/dt - telling up that y is a function of both x and t separately and we can write y as y(x,t).

Where did you find this equation, in what context?
Sorry for late response. The differential equation is the stress analysis of aerodynamics. I wonder if it is a partial or ordinary differential equation.
 
  • #4
Simon Bridge
Science Advisor
Homework Helper
17,874
1,655
Same answer as before.
If y is a function of both x and t, separately, then it is partial - otherwise it isn't.
What physical quantities do x y and t represent?
 
  • #5
8
0
Same answer as before.
If y is a function of both x and t, separately, then it is partial - otherwise it isn't.
What physical quantities do x y and t represent?
I really don't know. It is a math problem without any further context.
 
  • #6
Simon Bridge
Science Advisor
Homework Helper
17,874
1,655
You just said it was to do with stress analysis in an airframe. Does airframe stress not have any physical quantities to measure that have relationships to each other?

Whatever - without any further context, the answer is the same as post #2 ... it is an ordinary DE where y is a function of x and x is a function of t. You could reconstruct the whole thing in terms of t by using the chain rule.
 
  • #7
8
0
You just said it was to do with stress analysis in an airframe. Does airframe stress not have any physical quantities to measure that have relationships to each other?

Whatever - without any further context, the answer is the same as post #2 ... it is an ordinary DE where y is a function of x and x is a function of t. You could reconstruct the whole thing in terms of t by using the chain rule.
Thank you very much!
 
  • #8
HallsofIvy
Science Advisor
Homework Helper
41,847
966
Note that, since you have y as a function of x, and x as a function of t, you have, basically, two unknown functions. You will need two independent equations to solve for both x(t) and y(x). That is why Simon Bridge said "where you happen to know dx/dt by some other means"- the "other means" being, essentially, the other equation.
 

Related Threads on Ordinary or partial differential equation

Replies
13
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
543
Replies
0
Views
972
  • Last Post
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • Last Post
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • Last Post
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
796
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
11K
Top