Organic Halide Reaction: Products of Chloroethane and Sodium Hydroxide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the reaction of chloroethane with sodium hydroxide, exploring the possible products of this reaction. Participants consider both substitution and elimination mechanisms, discussing the conditions under which each may occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the products could be ethanol and sodium chloride through a substitution reaction or ethene, water, and sodium chloride through an elimination reaction.
  • Another participant points out that chloroethane has a primary carbon, questioning the feasibility of elimination reactions that are not stabilized by adjacent groups.
  • A subsequent reply seeks clarification on what is meant by "stabilized" in the context of reaction mechanisms.
  • Further discussion involves the role of carbonium ion intermediates in elimination reactions, with emphasis on how electron density donation can stabilize these intermediates.
  • Participants discuss the specifics of the elimination mechanism, questioning whether it follows an E2 or E1 pathway and the nature of the carbonium ion involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of substitution versus elimination reactions occurring with chloroethane, indicating that multiple competing models remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the reaction mechanisms, particularly the conditions under which elimination reactions can occur with primary carbons and the nature of intermediates involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students studying organic chemistry, particularly those exploring reaction mechanisms and product predictions in nucleophilic substitution and elimination reactions.

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Homework Statement


When reacting chloroethane with sodium hydroxide, what are the products?



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I think there are two possible solutions to this problem. One possible solution is ethanol and sodium chloride, through a substitution reaction. Another solution could be ethene, water, and sodium chloride, through an elimination reaction. How do I know which solution the question is looking for?
 
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Remember that the carbon is primary in this case. Do you know of any elimination reactions on a primary carbon that aren't stabilized by an adjacent group?
 
What do you mean by stabilized?
 
If the reaction mechanism calls for a carbonium ion intermediate, something that would donate electron density to that carbonium ion would "stabilize" it. If the carbonium ion intermediate could be delocalized somehow as in an aromatic ring or and some other unsaturated system, that would "stabilize" the carbonium ion.
 
The reaction mechanism for the elimination reaction (is it E2 or E1?) involves plucking off an adjacent hydrogen resulting in... what? Is this (primary, secondary or tertiary?) carbonium ion reasonable?
 

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