Orthogonality and orthonormality ?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of orthogonality and orthonormality, particularly in the context of wavefunctions. Participants explore the physical meaning and mathematical definitions of these terms, as well as their implications in various dimensions.

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  • One participant asks for the physical meaning of orthogonality and orthonormality, specifically in relation to wavefunctions.
  • Another participant explains that two vectors are orthogonal if their inner product equals zero, and defines unit vectors and orthonormal vectors in terms of their inner products.
  • This explanation extends to functions, stating that two functions are orthogonal if their integral product over a specified domain equals zero, and a normalized function meets a specific integral condition.
  • A third participant notes that many physicists often use the term orthogonal when they actually mean orthonormal.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the clarity of the previous explanation, indicating a better understanding of the concepts.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and implications of orthogonality and orthonormality, but there is a subtle distinction noted regarding the common usage of the terms among physicists.

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The discussion does not resolve the potential confusion between orthogonality and orthonormality in practical usage, nor does it specify the boundaries for the integrals mentioned in the mathematical definitions.

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Orthogonality and orthonormality ??

Hi
What does mean orthogonality and orthonormality physically ? e.g. orthogonal or orthonormal wavefunctions
king regards

Nawzad A.
 
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Do you understand what orthogonality and orthonormality means for vectors?

Suppose you have two vectors, a and b. They are orthogonal to each other if:

[tex]\sum_i a_i b*_i = 0[/tex]

Here, b* denotes complex conjugate of b. If b is real, b*=b.

Vector a is a unit vector if

[tex]\sum_i a_i a*_i = 1[/tex]

Vectors a and b are orthonormal if a and b are unit vectors that are orthogonal to each other.
This works for finite number of dimensions. A function can be thought of as a vector in infinitely many dimensions. (Hilbert Space is the formal name). Each point in a function is a component. The x coordinate takes place of index i, and the y coordinate is the magnitude of the function.

So the two functions a(x) and b(x) are orthogonal if:

[tex]\int a(x) b*(x) dx = 0[/tex]

Similarly, a normalized function a(x) is the one that conforms to following condition.

[tex]\int a(x) a*(x) dx = 1[/tex]

Note that I'm not placing boundaries on the integration, even though these should be definite integrals. The reason is that you may want to define your wave functions over all space, in which case integrals are from -∞ to ∞, or over some interval, in which case the integration is done over that interval.
 


The previous post is a good description.
I just want to add that most physicists use the word orthogonal with the understanding that they really mean orthonormal.
 


Thank you very much this is the clearest description i think,, i can imagine now
 

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