Oscilations: Bullet collides with wood block on spring

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The problem involves a bullet colliding with a wooden block attached to a spring, focusing on concepts of oscillations, conservation of momentum, and energy in a spring-mass system.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the period of oscillation and the amplitude of the system. There is confusion regarding the maximum velocity and its relevance to the oscillation parameters. Some participants explore the conservation of momentum to find the velocity of the block after the bullet embeds itself.

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Participants have made progress in calculating the period and the velocity of the block after impact. There is ongoing exploration of the amplitude and energy calculations, with some participants questioning the significance of initial conditions and previous velocities in the context of oscillations.

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There is a focus on the assumptions regarding the initial state of the spring and the kinetic energy of the bullet prior to impact. Participants are navigating through the implications of these assumptions on their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A 6.20g bullet traveling at 485m/s embeds itself in a 1.73kg wooden block at rest on a frictionless surface. The block is attached to a spring with k = 79.0N/m

A)Find the Period
B)Find the Amplitude
C)Find the totla energy of the bullet+block+spring system before the bullet enters the block.
D)Find the total energy of the bullet+block+spring system after the bullet enters the block.

Homework Equations


T=2∏\sqrt{}k/m or T=2∏ω
K=1/2mv
P=1/2kx
X=Acos(ωt)
Vx,max=ωA

The Attempt at a Solution

Ok so i found the Time T=2πsqrt(1.7362/79)== .931s

Now I'm literally stumped with finding the amplitude. I've tried Vmax=ωA and a few other ways and can't understand what I'm doing incorrectly.
 
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What's wrong with ##V_{max} = \omega A##?
 
voko said:
What's wrong with ##V_{max} = \omega A##?

I'm not really sure. I used it because i assume that 485 IS the max velocity
 
That was the velocity before impact. What the velocity of the block with the embedded bullet immediately after impact?
 
voko said:
That was the velocity before impact. What the velocity of the block with the embedded bullet immediately after impact?

I think using the conservation of momentum will work.

M1V1 + M2V2 = (M1 + M2)V3
.0062(485)+1.73(0)=(1.7362)V3 V=1.73m/s (that is a massive drop)
 
Yep.
 
voko said:
Yep.

Interesting.
SO i just take the difference between Vmax and Vmin?
Vmax 485=Sqrt(79/.0062)A A=4.296
Vmin 1.731=-sqrt(79/1.7362)A= -.256

Which i now have is 4.039m. Which mastering physics tells me is incorrect.
 
The velocity the bullet had before impact has no significance for oscillations. Important is only the velocity of the block. What is the max velocity of the block after impact?
 
voko said:
The velocity the bullet had before impact has no significance for oscillations. Important is only the velocity of the block. What is the max velocity of the block after impact?

1.73m/s?
 
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Yes.
 
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voko said:
Yes.

So now the Amplitude is .256m using Vmax=sqrt(k/m)A
 
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Looks good.
 
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Now for the energy before the bullet strikes.
Before the bullet enters the wood block i just have the kinetic energy of the bullet. Because i assume the spring is at x=0 and that just cancels out the potential energy.

Now for after the collision I used the X=Acos(ωt) to get X. I got .2544 by adding the two masses, used the time and amplitude i originally had.


1/2(1.7362)(1.73)^2+1/2(79)(.2544) I tried this but getting something incorrect. Is it because of what i did to the kinetic energy?
 
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Never mind i figured it out. Thank you very much for the assistance!
 

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