Oscillations concerning a pendulum

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a pendulum clock placed in a spaceship accelerating upward at 3g. The original poster attempts to calculate the period of vibration of the pendulum, considering the effects of acceleration on the forces acting on the pendulum bob.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the net acceleration experienced by the pendulum bob and question the calculations leading to the conclusion of 2g. There are discussions about the forces acting on the bob, including tension and gravitational forces, and the concept of pseudo forces in an accelerating frame.

Discussion Status

Several participants are engaged in clarifying the forces acting on the pendulum bob and the implications of the spaceship's acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of forces and the resulting tension in the string, with some guidance offered regarding the concept of pseudo forces.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of forces in a non-inertial reference frame, with some uncertainty about the correct application of Newton's laws in this context. There is a focus on understanding the implications of acceleration on the pendulum's behavior.

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Homework Statement



A clock is regulated by a pendulum. The pendulum can be considered as a small weight connected to a rod of negligible mass. The period of oscillation of the pendulum can be adjusted by moving the weight up or down the rod. The angular frequency is given by ##\omega ^2 =\frac{g}{L}##, where ##L## is the distance between the centre of the small mass and the pivot point of the pendulum.

The clock is placed on a spaceship accelerating from the surface of the Earth with
acceleration ##a=3g.## Calculate the period of vibration of the pendulum.

Homework Equations



##T = 2 \pi \sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}##

The Attempt at a Solution



The net acceleration is 2g.

Therefore,

## T = 2 {\pi} \sqrt{\frac{(50 \times 10^{-2})} {(2g)}} ##

##T = 1.003544 = 1 s##

Does this seem correct?
Thank you!
 
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Alex_Neof said:
The net acceleration is 2g.
How did you get this?
Alex_Neof said:
The clock is placed on a spaceship accelerating ##from~ the~ surface~ of~ the~ Earth## with
acceleration a=3g.a=3g.
 
##\sum F_y = ma = -mg + 3mg ##

##ma = 2mg ##

##a = 2g##

Taking forces radially downwards as negative.
 
Try to find the force acting on a body inside the shuttle rather than the total force acting on the space ship
Hint: you should consider pseudo force on the pendulum by Newtons 1st law
 
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Suraj, is this correct?

##\sum {F_y} = m(3g) = - mg + T ##

## T = m(4g) ##

So,
## a = 4g ##

Therefore,
## T = 0.71\ seconds##

Thank you.
 
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Thank you !
 
Alex_Neof said:
a=4g
As you have taken forces downward as -ve ypu should be getting a as a -ve value, which you're not,
What is the T you have introduced?
also ##∑F_y ≠m(3g)##
you got the right answer, but i doubt the method you have used..i do not mean to discourage you, but its better to know the right method, so that you can use it for another question.
 
Oh, the T is the tension of the string, which is upwards. How would I go about this? It's true I would rather know the method so I can apply the method again in the future.
 
Alex_Neof said:
the T is the tension of the string, which is upwards. How would I go about this?
Thats a good way to find out the total force acting on the bob, your T should be the resultant of 2 downward(-ve) forces, could you recognize those forces?
 
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sorry, since the rocket is accelerating upwards at 3g, does that mean the clock inside is also accelerating upwards at 3g?
 
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We'll it is, but when you're standing in a bus and the vehicle is accelerating forward at 5m/s² will you feel a forward force acting on you, or a backward force? apply your findings to the bob.
 
  • #12
So the bob will 'feel' a force of 3mg downwards. Adding this to its weight mg will result in the tension being 4mg upwards.
 
  • #13
yes the tension is 4mg upwards which is the one which balances out the downward force experienced by the bob, so you can get your new g' = a=-4g .. and you'll have your answer.
Just remember about the concept of pseudoforce in cases like this, body feels a force equal and opposite to the direction of its (accelerated) motion.
:smile:
 
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Thanks again Suraj.

Kind regards and all the best!
 
  • #15
You're welcome, :smile:
All the best to you too .
 

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