Oscillatory Motion - Determining equation of motion

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle attached to a spring, exploring its oscillatory motion and related concepts such as potential and kinetic energy, as well as the relationship to a simple pendulum. The subject area includes mechanics, specifically harmonic motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss methods to determine the angular frequency and maximum velocity, with some uncertainty about the phase constant. Questions arise regarding the calculation of phi and its implications for the motion equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different approaches to find the phase constant and the equation of motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of sine and cosine functions to simplify the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of conflicting results for the phase constant phi, and participants are considering the implications of maximum speed occurring at the equilibrium point. The original poster references a previous thread for additional context.

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Homework Statement



A particle with a mass of 0.5 kg is attached to a horizontal spring with a force constant of 50 N/m. At the moment t = 0, the particle has a maximum speed of 20 m/s and is moving to the left.
(a) Determine the particle's equation of motion.
(b) Where in the motion is the potential energy three times the kinetic energy?
(c) Find the minimum time interval required for the particle to move from x=0 to x=1.00m.
(d) Find the length of a simple pendulum with the same period.


Homework Equations


(a)
w=sqrt(k/m)

v_max = Aw

(b)
3(.5*m*w^2*A^2*sin^2(wt+phi))= .5*k*A^2*cos^2(wt+phi)


The Attempt at a Solution



I searched he forums here for the same question and found this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-231270.html

I think I understand how to find omega and the maximum velocity (though the signs may be incorrect), but I don't understand how to solve for phi. The only thing I could think of was to set

v=-wAsin(wt+phi) to -20=10*(-2)sin(phi) for t=0.
This returned a phi=3pi/2 or -pi/2, unless I'm doing something wrong.
I also tried to set x(0)=0, so
0=(-2)cos(phi) which results in phi=pi/2.
These answers disagree with what the linked thread found for phi and what my professor's answer had for phi.

I'm just having a hard time understand phi, which seems like such a simple concept. If anyone could steer me in the right direction, I think I could finish this problem. Thanks for any help!
 
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v=-wAsin(wt+phi) to -20=10*(-2)sin(phi) for t=0.

If -20=10*(-2)sin(phi), then sin(phi)=1, so phi can be pi/2. This is consistent with what you got using x(0)=0.
 
Just a thought: if the speed is maximum as the particle passes through the equilibrium point at t=0, why not make the velocity function a cosine and do away with the phase constant? Integrate once to find the position function (which will then be a sine function, again with no phase constant). Should make life easier.
 
If you're going to do more with oscillators (or waves) I recommend purchasing A. P. French's Vibrations and Waves It's inexpensive -- likely free down-loadable -- there are MIT lectures based on it.

bc
 

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