Our President is delusional, does that bother anyone?

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The discussion centers around the perception of President Bush's claims of divine guidance regarding military actions, particularly the invasion of Iraq, and the implications of such beliefs on political decisions and morality. Participants explore the motivations behind Bush's statements and actions, as well as the broader context of U.S. involvement in the Middle East.

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  • Some participants suggest that Bush either genuinely believes he communicates with God, uses this belief as a political tactic, or is delusional.
  • Others argue that Bush's actions, such as the invasion of Iraq, contradict any genuine concern for peace and security in the Middle East.
  • A participant mentions that Bush's focus on a Palestinian state emerged only after Arafat's death, implying opportunism rather than genuine intent.
  • Some express skepticism about the legitimacy of the Nobel Peace Prize, questioning its value in the context of political actions.
  • There are references to other historical figures who claimed divine communication, drawing parallels to Bush's situation.
  • Participants express emotional responses to Bush's actions, indicating feelings of distress and fear regarding the consequences of his presidency.
  • Discussions about the general consensus on Arafat's role in Middle Eastern stability reveal differing perspectives on historical narratives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding Bush's motivations and the implications of his claims. Multiple competing views remain about the nature of his beliefs and their impact on U.S. foreign policy.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on interpretations of historical events and statements, with participants acknowledging the complexity of the political landscape in the Middle East. There are unresolved questions about the accuracy of claims regarding Bush's intentions and the consequences of his actions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those examining the intersection of politics, religion, and ethics, particularly in the context of U.S. foreign policy and Middle Eastern affairs.

  • #181
Hurkyl said:
Does your insurance company pay twice as much if you knowingly ended your life in a sudden and violent way? Does it even pay at all if you committed suicide?

I didn't ask. There was no clause on suicide, but probably that's considered an "illness" and not an "accident".
 
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  • #182
As I read through these posts, I can't help but feel that humans are animals, no more and no less. Animals contest, often violently, with one another for the control of territory and resources. Why are we so surprised when we do?
 
  • #183
Manchot said:
Because God doesn't tell people to go to war.

Can you source this interview of yours?

:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:

I love popping into 200 post threads, looking at post 1 and the last few posts and wonder "hmm... let's see how far off point A and point B are this time". Doesn't seem that bad so far.
 
  • #184
vanesch said:
I didn't ask. There was no clause on suicide, but probably that's considered an "illness" and not an "accident".
Check your policy - insurance companies pay nothing (or next to nothing) in cases of suicide.
 
  • #185
Yonoz said:
Check your policy - insurance companies pay nothing (or next to nothing) in cases of suicide.
See, one more reason to be generous to those poor families of suicide bombers! They do not even get money from their insurance company :biggrin:
It has to arrive to you: you get married to what seems to be a nice, introvert guy, have a lot of kids, build a house... and then that nitwick goes and blows himself up in the middle of a crowded place ! Where do you go to get you out of misery ?
 
  • #186
vanesch said:
It has to arrive to you: you get married to what seems to be a nice, introvert guy, have a lot of kids, build a house... and then that nitwick goes and blows himself up in the middle of a crowded place ! Where do you go to get you out of misery ?
To PF's Politics and World Affairs subforum, of course :-p
 

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