Outgoing Eddington-Finkelstein coordinates

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The discussion focuses on the interpretation of outgoing Eddington-Finkelstein (E-F) coordinates in the context of Schwarzschild black holes. It clarifies that these coordinates illustrate how timelike worldlines can emerge from the white hole singularity and enter the exterior asymptotically flat region, covering Region IV and Region I of the maximally extended spacetime. In contrast, ingoing E-F coordinates cover Regions I and II, highlighting that the horizons and singularities depicted in the two E-F charts are distinct. This distinction is crucial for understanding the behavior of particles in relation to black hole event horizons.

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I'm not sure what's going on in outgoing Eddington-Finkelstein coordinates for a Schwarzschild black hole. Future-directed timelike curves can be followed from inside the event horizon to outside it (page 185/186 of Sean Carroll's online GR notes: http://preposterousuniverse.com/grnotes/grnotes-seven.pdf ). How is that possible? Wouldn't that imply that massive particles could escape from inside a black hole's event horizon? Kruskal coordinates make it crystal clear that all future directed timelike worldlines inside the event horizon end in the singularity, so I really can't see what the outgoing E-F coordinates are illustrating.
 
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Future-directed timelike curves can be followed from inside the event horizon to outside it (page 185/186 of Sean Carroll's online GR notes: http://preposterousuniverse.com/grnotes/grnotes-seven.pdf ). How is that possible? Wouldn't that imply that massive particles could escape from inside a black hole's event horizon?

No, it means that outgoing E-F coordinates cover a different portion of the total spacetime than ingoing E-F coordinates do. See below.

LastOneStanding said:
Kruskal coordinates make it crystal clear that all future directed timelike worldlines inside the event horizon end in the singularity, so I really can't see what the outgoing E-F coordinates are illustrating.

They are illustrating that timelike worldlines can *emerge* from the white hole singularity, come out through the white hole horizon, and enter the exterior asymptotically flat region. Outgoing E-F coordinates cover Region IV and Region I of the full (maximally extended) spacetime, where the "regions" are labeled as shown in this diagram:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kruksal_diagram.jpg

Ingoing E-F coordinates cover Regions I and II. So the horizons and singularities that are "visible" in the two E-F charts are *different*.
 
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Got it, thanks!
 

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