Outward force of molasses on a cylinder

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The problem involves calculating the total outward force exerted by molasses on the sides of a cylindrical tank that ruptured, leading to a significant flood. The context includes historical details about the incident and specific measurements related to the tank and the molasses.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of pressure over the area of the tank's wall to find the total outward force. There are attempts to clarify the area calculation and the pressure considerations, including the role of atmospheric pressure.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and clarified the area differential. There is an acknowledgment of differing views on whether to include atmospheric pressure in the calculations. The discussion appears to be progressing with some participants expressing understanding.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the integration process and the assumptions about pressure. The original poster's calculations have been questioned, and there is a need for clearer presentation of the mathematical steps involved.

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Homework Statement



On the afternoon of January 15, 1919, an unusually warm day in Boston, a 27.4-m-high, 27.4-m-diameter cylindrical metal tank used for storing molasses ruptured. Molasses flooded into the streets in a 9-m-deep stream, killing pedestrians and horses, and knocking down buildings. The molasses had a density of 1600 kg/ m^3

If the tank was full before the accident, what was the total outward force the molasses exerted on its sides? (Hint: Consider the outward force on a circular ring of the tank wall of width dy and at a depth y below the surface. Integrate to find the total outward force. Assume that before the tank ruptured, the pressure at the surface of the molasses was equal to the air pressure outside the tank.)


Homework Equations



F=PA p=p0+roh*g*h

The Attempt at a Solution



if F=PA then dF=dPdA and dA for a cylinder is pi*d (integration of pi*r^2) and for d=27.4, dA=86.1

i have F=86.1*int[101325pascals + (1600kg/m^3)(9.8m/s^2)hdh] from 0 to 27.4

integrating gives

86.1 (101325h+7840h^2) and plugging in 27.4 for h gives 7.46e^8 which is wrong... help?
 
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The atmospheric pressure acts both inward and outward. I do not think you should count with it. And make your calculation a bit more clear. dA is the area of a strip on the wall of the cylinder: dA=2pi R dy.

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dF=p*dA; p=rho*g*y;dA=pi*dia*dy

F=rho*g*dia*pi*integrate[y*dy] from 0 to h
 
got it, thanks
 

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