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Am I right in understanding that Gamma Rays can decay into an electron-positron pair without interacting with any matter as indicated by Bubble Chamber results?
The discussion revolves around the process of pair production from gamma rays, specifically whether a single photon can decay into an electron-positron pair without interaction with matter, and the conditions required for such processes to occur. The scope includes theoretical considerations, particle interactions, and implications of conservation laws.
Participants generally disagree on the specifics of pair production, particularly regarding the necessity of additional particles for conservation laws and the details of interactions involved. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.
There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the interactions involved in pair production, as well as the definitions of terms like "spectator" particle and the role of energy thresholds in these processes.
When an electron-positron collision produces those two photons, do those two photons soon convert back into electron-positron pairs or two electrons?jtbell said:A single isolated photon cannot convert into a particle-antiparticle pair because such a process cannot conserve both energy and momentum. Another particle has to be nearby, usually an atomic nucleus, to take up some energy and momentum. A bubble chamber is far from a vacuum.![]()
Note that going the other way, a particle-antiparticle pair in isolation cannot annihilate into a single photon, for the same reason. You always get at least two photons.
In order for a photon to convert into an electron-positron pair, it has to have enough energy to produce the masses of the electron and positron, that is, a bit over 1 MeV. So if you start out with an electron and a positron which have enough kinetic energy, when they annihilate they can produce photons with enough energy to each produce new electron-positron pairs in turn. But if the original electron and positron don't have much KE, then this isn't possible.Buckeye said:When an electron-positron collision produces those two photons, do those two photons soon convert back into electron-positron pairs or two electrons?
That should be "positron and electron", of course. This is an electromagnetic interaction, so the "spectator" particle has to have electric charge. I don't know enough about the details of pair production to say whether you can associate the process with a particular proton in a nucleus, or whether you must instead consider the nucleus as a whole.Does the positron come from a gamma-ray-neutron interaction or from a gamm-ray-proton interaction?
My understanding is that massive particles can not be made from massless particles even if the photon has enough energy to form those massive particles. Is that right?jtbell said:In order for a photon to convert into an electron-positron pair, it has to have enough energy to produce the masses of the electron and positron, that is, a bit over 1 MeV. So if you start out with an electron and a positron which have enough kinetic energy, when they annihilate they can produce photons with enough energy to each produce new electron-positron pairs in turn. But if the original electron and positron don't have much KE, then this isn't possible.
You can't just get two electrons because that wouldn't conserve charge.
That should be "positron and electron", of course. This is an electromagnetic interaction, so the "spectator" particle has to have electric charge. I don't know enough about the details of pair production to say whether you can associate the process with a particular proton in a nucleus, or whether you must instead consider the nucleus as a whole.
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