What happens when gamma rays with ultra-high energies interact with matter?

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The discussion revolves around the interaction of ultra-high energy gamma rays with matter, exploring the expected properties and outcomes as energy levels increase. Participants examine various interaction mechanisms, including pair production, photoelectric effects, and other absorption channels, while considering the implications of these processes on macroscopic scales.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how increasing gamma ray energy affects penetration through high Z-matter and whether pair production becomes the dominant interaction mechanism over photoelectric and Compton scattering.
  • Another participant asserts that pair production is already dominant at the GeV range and leads to electromagnetic showers with electrons, positrons, and photons.
  • Additional absorption channels are proposed to open at various energy thresholds, including photonuclear reactions and pair production of different particles, with specific energy ranges provided.
  • A participant challenges the accuracy of some proposed energy thresholds for various processes, suggesting that resonances are rare and that the effective center of mass energy is lower than expected.
  • Concerns are raised about the rarity of certain processes, such as muon pair production, and the significance of photon-gluon fusion at very high energies compared to electromagnetic processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the dominance and relevance of various interaction processes at high energies, with no consensus reached on the thresholds or the significance of certain mechanisms.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in the proposed energy thresholds and the rarity of certain processes, indicating that assumptions about the dominance of specific interactions may depend on the context and energy levels considered.

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What sort of properties would you expect from gamma rays, as you increase their energy, and why? Would they penetrate high Z-matter more easily? What would be the outcome of the interactions? Do you expect photoelectric and Compton scattering processes to become negligible, and the dominant interaction mechanism becomes pair production?

On a macroscopic scale, what do you think would happen if photons with energies of something like 1J each interacts with matter? A very small antimatter explosion from pair production and subsequent annihilation?
 
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Pair production is dominant already at the GeV range and it stays that way. You get electromagnetic showers with electrons, positrons and photons. Towards the end you get more and more lower energy processes.
 
As the energy increases, you have additional absorption channels opening up:
  • Around 10 MeV depending on the target nuclei - photonuclear reactions
  • About 140 MeV - direct pion production
  • About 210 MeV - muon pair production
  • About 300 MeV - a resonance peak of pion production via Δ
  • About 700 MeV - start of hyperon production, like p+γ→Λ+K+
  • About 1900 MeV - nucleon pair production, and soon after hyperon pairs
  • About 3500 MeV - tauon pair production, and soon after charm
  • Around 10 GeV - beauty pair production
  • From 80 GeV - real W and soon after Z bosons.
Is it confirmed that simple electron-positron pair production stays dominant above all the higher energy processes combined at all energies, including their resonance peaks/edges?
 
We have photons up to ~2 TeV in the LHC collisions. They make electromagnetic showers as expected. The other processes are not impossible but very rare. Resonances are rare or very narrow, the latter makes them rare for a relevant photon spectrum.
Some of your thresholds are too low, by the way. An 80 GeV photon hitting a nucleus doesn't have 80 GeV center of mass energy with the photon/quark system, it only has something of the order of 10 or even less.
 
mfb said:
Some of your thresholds are too low, by the way.

All of them besides the one where "it depends". (And there is no such thing as a "tauon".)

mfb said:
The other processes are not impossible but very rare.

True, but I don't think that gets across how rare is rare. The Bethe-Heitler process goes as 1/m2 so muon pair production at very high energies is 1/40,000 of the electron rate. There's also threshold effects at low and moderate energies: 99.998% of 500 MeV photons don't produce muons.

Even correcting the errors, these additional processes just aren't relevant.

The process that becomes relevant at very high energies is photon-gluon fusion, because that happens with QCD-sized cross-sections, not EM-sized cross-sections. This is still rare: say the 1/1000 rate instead of the 1/100,000+ you might expect from a pure EM process.
 
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