Paradox with elementary submodels of the constructible tower

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The discussion centers on a paradox involving the constructible hierarchy of sets, specifically the elementary submodels of L, denoted as L_{\alpha}. Key properties include the transitive nature of L_{\alpha}, the relationship between countable elementary submodels (CESMs) M_{1} and M_{2}, and the implications of their transitive collapses. The paradox arises when attempting to establish that the union of these elementary submodels is itself an elementary submodel, which is proven incorrect due to the failure of inclusion maps to act as elementary embeddings. The conclusion emphasizes that the set of ordinals δ, where L_{\delta} is an elementary submodel of L_{\alpha}, is closed with respect to limits and unbounded for α = ω_{1}.

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This is an argument I thought up after a class on combinatrical properties of the model \textbf{L}. Our course is about set theory, not logic, so this paradox desn't seem relevant in its context. Can you help me figure out where I got it wrong?

The constructible heirarchy of sets is a series L_{\alpha} that is defined for all ordinal numbers \alpha. The important properties for my argument are:
  1. L_{\alpha} is transitive for every \alpha
  2. If \alpha < \beta, then L_{\alpha}\subset L_{\beta}
  3. The transitive collapse (aka Montowski collapse) of every elementary submodel M \prec L_{\alpha} is L_{\beta} for some \beta
  4. L_{\omega_{1}} satisfies "every set is countable" and L_{\omega_{2}} does not
  5. L_{\alpha} is coutable iff \alpha is countable

So, we take an countable elementary submodel (CESM) M_{1} \prec L_{\omega_{1}}, and look at its transitive collapse, L_{\alpha_{1}} for some countable \alpha_{1}. We then take an CESM M_{2} \prec L_{\omega_{2}} that contains L_{\alpha_{2}}, and collapse it to get L_{\alpha_{2}} with countable \alpha_{2}. Then the same procedure yields a model L_{\alpha_{3}} \supset L_{\alpha_{2}} that has an elementary embedding into L_{\omega_{1}}. We generate an infinite series, switching between modelling L_{\omega_{1}} and L_{\omega_{2}}.

The limit L_{\alpha}=L_{\lim_{n<\omega}\alpha_{n}}=\bigcup_{n<\omega}L_{\alpha_{n}} is then the union of both subseries \{L_{\alpha_{n}}\}_{n=1,3,\ldots} and \{L_{\alpha_{n}}\}_{n=2,4,\ldots}. But a union of a series of elementary submodels is itself an elementary submodel, since it is a direct limit. In particular L_{\alpha} should be elementary equivalent to both L_{\omega_{1}} and L_{\omega_{2}}. This is impossible because of property (4), namely there is a statement true in one and not in another.

Where did I go wrong in my reasoning? All kinds of tips are appreciated...
 
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"The union of elementary submodels is itself an elementary submodels" is only true when those submodels are elementary substructures of one another. This means more than just the fact that L_{\alpha_n} \subset L_{\alpha_{n+2}} and L_{\alpha_n} \equiv L_{\alpha_{n+2}}, it requires that the inclusion map is the elementary embedding. This would be the case if the L_{\alpha_n} were elementary substructures of their respective L_{\omega_i}, but they're generally not. You do get that they're elementarily equivalent subsets of their respective L_{\omega_i}, but the inclusion maps are not typically the elementary embeddings. The embeddings here are the inverses of the Mostowski collapses.

Nothing I said above proves that the inclusion maps aren't elementary embeddings, although nothing you said proves that they are. But here's why they're definitely not. Let's take for example L_{\omega_2}. For the same that GCH holds in L, we know that L_{\omega_2} thinks there is exactly one cardinal after \omega, and that this cardinal is \omega_1. If L_{\alpha} \equiv L_{\omega_2} with \alpha countable, then this structure will also think there's a unique cardinal after \omega, but it won't think \omega_1 is it.
 
I see what you mean...

So, it seems that for every ordinal \alpha, the set \{\delta < \omega_{1} \mid L_{\delta} \prec L_{\alpha}\} is closed w.r.t taking limits. I thought about it some more and it's not hard to see this set is unbounded for \alpha = \omega_{1}, since for each \beta < \omega_{1} you can find find some L_{\beta'} with \beta<\beta'<\omega_{1} that is closed w.r.t Skolem functions of L_{\omega_{1}}. This natually means that the set of δs can't be unbounded for |\alpha|>\aleph_{1}.
 
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Amir Livne said:
I see what you mean...

So, it seems that for every ordinal \alpha, the set \{\delta < \omega_{1} \mid L_{\delta} \prec L_{\alpha}\} is closed w.r.t taking limits. I thought about it some more and it's not hard to see this set is unbounded for \alpha = \omega_{1}, since for each \beta < \omega_{1} you can find find some L_{\beta'} with \beta<\beta'<\omega_{1} that is closed w.r.t Skolem functions of L_{\omega_{1}}.
Correct. Another simple argument is to do the following construction:

  • X_0 = Hull(\{\beta\},L_{\alpha})
  • \beta_0 = \min\{\gamma : X_0 \subset L_\gamma\}
  • X_{n+1} = Hull(L_{\beta_n},L_\alpha)
  • \beta_{n+1} = \min\{\gamma : X_n \subset L_\gamma\}
  • L_{\beta'} = \bigcup X_n
Here Hull(X,M) denotes some Skolem Hull of the set X in the structure M. Since we're working with L, there's a canonical choice for such hull.
This natually means that the set of δs can't be unbounded for |\alpha|>\aleph_{1}.
Indeed, the set of such \delta's is empty!
 
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