Parallel Plate Capacitor and distance

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a parallel-plate capacitor, specifically focusing on calculating the separation distance between the plates given their area and capacitance. The subject area is primarily related to electrostatics and capacitance concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the capacitance formula to find the separation distance but encounters difficulties with their calculations. They question whether the area needs to be adjusted or if there is a mistake in their mathematical manipulation.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the algebraic manipulation of the capacitance formula, suggesting corrections to the original poster's approach. There is acknowledgment of the need for careful dimensional analysis in the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the assumptions about the dielectric material.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the assumption that the dielectric is air and reference the permittivity of free space. There is mention of the importance of dimensional analysis in ensuring the correctness of the final equation.

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I'm going through my book and one of the Example exercises has the following problem:
Two plates, each of area 3X10^-4 m^2 are used to construc a parallel-plate capacitor with capacitance 1 pF. (a) Find the necessary separation distance.

Seems pretty obvious right? C = Eo(A/d)
So, I figure I'm finding d = C/(Eo)(A)
but it doesn't come out right, so I must be missing something either in my math (not surprising) or the area. Do I need to do a calculation with the area? Like 2 X A? That doesn't work either, and it doesn't seem right to do it that way. Help, please??
 
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Its just your manipulation which is letting you down. It should be;

[tex]C = \frac{E_{0}A}{d}[/tex]
[tex]C \cdot d = E_{0}\cdot {A}[/tex]
[tex]d = \frac{E_{0}A}{C}[/tex]

-Hoot:smile:
 
Hootenanny said:
Its just your manipulation which is letting you down.


You are awesome! Thank you!

:approve:
 
If you are assume the dielectric is air (k ~ 1) and [itex]\epsilon_o = 8.854 x 10^{-12}[/itex] F/m, you may get d = 2.656 mm. A more general formula for this type question may be found here.
In agreement with Hoot, i noticed the same fault in rearranging your equation. It is a good idea to do a couple of things to double check maths. One is to do the algebra step by step, the other is to do a quick dimensional analysis of the final equation. In your case, you have A left in the denominator. The only way that would work and have answer come out in meters is to have [itex]m^3[/itex] in the numerator, which you don't have.
 
Wow. Thank you, that is most helpful. The link is terrific. Again, thank you!
 

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