Parallel plate capacitor's plate distance is doubled, does the energy double?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of a parallel-plate capacitor when the plate distance is doubled after being charged and disconnected from a battery. The electric field remains unchanged, while the potential difference doubles, leading to a doubling of the total energy stored in the capacitor. This conclusion aligns with established equations: E=σ/ε0 for electric field, V=Ed for potential difference, and U=(1/2)QV for potential energy. The participants express confusion regarding energy conservation and the implications of increased plate separation.

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  • Understanding of parallel-plate capacitor fundamentals
  • Familiarity with electric field equations (E=σ/ε0)
  • Knowledge of potential difference calculations (V=Ed)
  • Comprehension of energy storage in capacitors (U=(1/2)QV)
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  • Explore the concept of energy conservation in electrical systems
  • Learn about the implications of changing capacitance on stored energy
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Homework Statement



A parallel-plate capacitor is charged by being connected to a battery and is then disconnected from the battery. The separation between the plates is then doubled. How does the electric field change? The potential difference? The total energy? Explain your reasoning.

Homework Equations



σ=Q/A (Surface Charge Density)

E=σ/ε0 (Electric Field Between Plates)

V=Ed (Potential Difference)

U=(1/2)QV (Potential Energy)

The Attempt at a Solution



Q1=Q2

A1=A2

d1=x
d2=2x

Question 1: Electric Field Change?

E=Q/(Aε0)

No, d is not related.

Question 2: Potential Difference Change?

V=Ed

Yes, the voltage will double.

Question 3: Total Energy change?

U=(1/2)QV

Yes, it will double.


4. Hold up! That doesn't make sense!

So I have the answers, but I need someone to explain this to me because this looks to be breaking thermodynamics. The answers given is inline with what cramster and numerous other sources have said. I think the new capacitor will allow it to store twice the charge, but the problem makes it seem like the energy is just created. Or am I suppose to be assuming that by moving the plates farther apart, the capacitor is converting the physical motion energy into electrical energy?

My logic is telling me the final total energy should be the same as the initial. And that the electric field should have been halved. But I don't have an equation available for electric field intensity.
 
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DerekZ10 said:

Homework Statement



A parallel-plate capacitor is charged by being connected to a battery and is then disconnected from the battery. The separation between the plates is then doubled. How does the electric field change? The potential difference? The total energy? Explain your reasoning.

Homework Equations



σ=Q/A (Surface Charge Density)

E=σ/ε0 (Electric Field Between Plates)

V=Ed (Potential Difference)

U=(1/2)QV (Potential Energy)

The Attempt at a Solution



Q1=Q2

A1=A2

d1=x
d2=2x

Question 1: Electric Field Change?

E=Q/(Aε0)

No, d is not related.

Question 2: Potential Difference Change?

V=Ed

Yes, the voltage will double.

Question 3: Total Energy change?

U=(1/2)QV

Yes, it will double.


4. Hold up! That doesn't make sense!

So I have the answers, but I need someone to explain this to me because this looks to be breaking thermodynamics. The answers given is inline with what cramster and numerous other sources have said. I think the new capacitor will allow it to store twice the charge, but the problem makes it seem like the energy is just created. Or am I suppose to be assuming that by moving the plates farther apart, the capacitor is converting the physical motion energy into electrical energy?

My logic is telling me the final total energy should be the same as the initial. And that the electric field should have been halved. But I don't have an equation available for electric field intensity.

Welcome to the PF.

It looks like you are missing two key equations. The first relates the capacitance to the palte area A and separation distance d. Are you familiar with that equation?

The second equation relates the charge Q to the capacitance C and the voltage between the plates V. Are you familiar with that equation?

Does using those two equations make this easier for you?
 

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