Parameterize the intersection of the surfaces

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The problem involves parameterizing the intersection of the surfaces defined by the equations z = x^2 - y^2 and z = x^2 + xy - 1. Participants are exploring the relationships between the variables and attempting to express one variable in terms of another.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting x = t and substituting into the equations to find y in terms of t. There is a focus on solving the resulting quadratic equation for y and determining the correct expression for z.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on solving the quadratic equation and questioning the formatting of expressions. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the z component and suggestions for simplifying the approach.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of quadratic equations and the implications of their parameterization choices. There is a mention of potential formatting issues that may hinder clarity in the discussion.

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Parameterize the intersection of the surfaces z=x^2-y^2 and z=x^2+xy-1

What's getting me stuck on this problem is the xy. I set x=t

z=x^2-y^2
z=t^2-y^2

z=x^2+xy-1
t^2-y^2=t^2+ty-1
y^2=1-ty
Thats as far as of come, I'm stuck on this
 
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andyk23 said:
Parameterize the intersection of the surfaces z=x^2-y^2 and z=x^2+xy-1

What's getting me stuck on this problem is the xy. I set x=t

z=x^2-y^2
z=t^2-y^2

z=x^2+xy-1
t^2-y^2=t^2+ty-1
y^2=1-ty
Thats as far as of come, I'm stuck on this

That looks ok so far. So now you want to solve y^2=1-ty for y in terms of t, right? It's a quadratic equation. You should be able to solve that.
 
That's the part I'm stuck on, y^2+ty-1=0; (y+?)(y-?)=0
 
andyk23 said:
That's the part I'm stuck on, y^2+ty-1=0; (y+?)(y-?)=0

You don't really directly solve something like this by factoring. Do you know the quadratic formula?
 
sorry I was thinking something else for the quadratic eqn y= -t+/- sq rt(t^2=4)/2
 
andyk23 said:
sorry I was thinking something else for the quadratic eqn y= -t+/- sq rt(t^2=4)/2

That would be right, if you could clean up the formatting.
 
then r(t)=<t, (-t+/- sq rt(t^2=4))/2, t^2-(-t+/- sq rt(t^2=4))/2> thanks for your help!
 
andyk23 said:
then r(t)=<t, (-t+/- sq rt(t^2=4))/2, t^2-(-t+/- sq rt(t^2=4))/2> thanks for your help!

Gack. sq rt(t^2=4)? What's that supposed to mean? And your z component is wrong. But I think you can clean this up on your own.
 
would the Z component be z= x^2-y^2 and just put the x and y in?
 
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andyk23 said:
would the Z component be z= x^2-y^2 and just put the x and y in?

It would probably be easier to put them into z=x^2+xy-1 so you don't have to square y, don't you agree?
 
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Agreed, thanks again for all your help!
 

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