Parenthood is like being a heroin addict?

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The discussion revolves around an article by Daniel Gilbert that compares parenthood to heroin addiction, exploring themes of happiness, sacrifice, and the impact of parenting on personal joy and social life. Participants share their perspectives on the validity of this comparison and the implications of parenting on individual fulfillment and social interactions.

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  • Some participants express skepticism about Gilbert's comparison, suggesting it reflects a lack of understanding of parenthood from someone without children.
  • One participant argues that the perception of fun changes after having children, implying that parents can eventually regain social activities as their children grow older.
  • Another participant acknowledges that while children can dominate a parent's life, this focus is generally beneficial, as neglect can lead to negative outcomes for children.
  • Mixed feelings are expressed regarding the suitability of everyone to be a parent, indicating that not all individuals may be prepared for the responsibilities involved.
  • One participant mentions the potential financial motivations behind Gilbert's provocative statements as an author, questioning the objectivity of his views.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of Gilbert's comparison. While some challenge the comparison to heroin addiction, others acknowledge the complexities of parenting and its effects on personal happiness and social life.

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Some participants note the influence of personal circumstances on perceptions of parenting, such as age, experience, and social dynamics, which may affect the validity of generalizations made in the discussion.

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Readers interested in the psychological and social implications of parenthood, as well as those exploring differing perspectives on parenting experiences and societal expectations.

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Daniel Gilbert does an article on fatherhood in anticipation of Father's Day in Time Magazine (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1202940,00.html).

He makes an interesting comparison between parenthood and being addicted to heroin.

Parenthood generally makes people more unhappy most of the time. It's just that day to day parenting only makes you a little more unhappy, while the few good experiences make a person really, really happy - kind of like how being a heroin addict is generally an unhappy experience, but the pleasurable rush of heroin makes an addict forget about his general level of unhappiness.

A few extreme pleasures or miseries stick in a person's mind a lot better than a dull low-level unhappiness.

People are generally willing to pay dearly for things that bring happiness. Sometimes, that instinct gets reversed and people believe paying dear prices makes a thing more pleasurable.

And, most of all, just like the pursuit of more heroin tends to eliminate all other interests of the heroin addict, parenting is so time consuming that the saying "My children are my greatest joy" becomes self-fulfilling. Of course it's their only joy - parents don't have time to pursue any other joys!

By the way, I don't personally agree with Gilbert. My kids bring me more joy than anything else I've ever experienced in life. But then again, I've never tried heroin yet.
 
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Daniel Gilbert, is a head case i would love to have more kids, but i can not find a nanny
 
Gilbert sounds like some young pup without kids who is just at that age where he's resenting that he can no longer call up his friends at a moment's notice to do something crazy because they're all married with kids. I think it's a normal reaction for single people to look at everyone married with kids around you and wonder what's the point when they never seem to have any time to go out and have fun anymore. But, it's just that their idea of fun has changed, and yours hasn't. Once the kids are past the clingy toddler stage, can be left with a babysitter once in a while, and don't require packing 3 changes of clothes, 10 diapers, and who knows what else for an hour long visit to grandma's, parents start getting out more again.

If he's older than that, or does have kids, then he needs to get some professional help to get a grip on life.
 
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Gilbert sounds like some young pup without kids who is just at that age where he's resenting that he can no longer call up his friends at a moment's notice to do something crazy because they're all married with kids. I think it's a normal reaction for single people to look at everyone married with kids around you and wonder what's the point when they never seem to have any time to go out and have fun anymore. But, it's just that their idea of fun has changed, and yours hasn't. Once the kids are past the clingy toddler stage, can be left with a babysitter once in a while, and don't require packing 3 changes of clothes, 10 diapers, and who knows what else for an hour long visit to grandma's, parents start getting out more again.

If he's older than that, or does have kids, then he needs to get some professional help to get a grip on life.
He's a professor of psychology at Harvard. However, as an author, he does have a monetary motivation to be provocative and witty. http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781400042661
 
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I don't know about the comparison to heroin addiction, but it's true that children can become the center of their parent's lives.

That's probably a good thing on the whole since neglected children tend to end up badly. I know a lot of teens whose parents show little interest in them and the kids are into everything people shouldn't be into, especially drugs.
 
I have mixed feeling about all of this. Suffice it to say that not everyone should be a parent.
 

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