Partial Fraction Decomposition

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The discussion revolves around the partial fraction decomposition of the expression 1/[s*(s^2 + 4)]. Participants are exploring methods to determine the coefficients A, B, and C in the decomposition.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss substituting specific values for s to create equations for the coefficients. There are suggestions to use values like s=0, s=2, and s=-2 to derive equations for B and C. Some participants question the necessity of using complex numbers in the process.

Discussion Status

There are multiple approaches being explored, with some participants successfully finding values for A, B, and C through coefficient comparison. Others are still seeking clarity on the best substitutions to use for solving the equations. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of different values for s to generate necessary equations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the introduction of complex numbers and the need for multiple substitutions to eliminate variables. The discussion reflects a range of understanding regarding the setup of the problem and the methods to solve it.

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Homework Statement


1/[s*(s^2 + 4)]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


1/[s*(s^2 + 4)] = A/(s) + (Bs + C)/(s^2 + 4)
=> 1 = A(s^2 + 4) + (Bs + C)s

s = 0

1 = A(0 + 4) + (B*0 + C)*0
A = 1/4


s = i

1 = A(i^2 + 4) + (Bi + C)i
1 = A(i^2 + 4) + Bi^2 + Ci
1 = (1/4)(-1 + 4) - B + Ci
1 = 3/4 - B - Ci
1/4 = -B - Ci

No clue how to do the rest,

Thanks!
 
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Now, I have NO idea how to do this, but try this:

On this equation, \frac {1} {4} = -B - Ci what values of i would eliminate C, apart from 0?
After that, you solve for B and then you can insert that in 1 = \frac {1} {4}\cdot(s^2 +4) + (Bs +C)\cdot s
 
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I don't know. i = 1/C ?
 
I think the substitution s=0 was a good idea, but I don't really see a need to introduce complex numbers here. It would clearly be hard to eliminate either B or C with one substitution so we seek two substitutions that will give us two equations which can easily be used to find B and C. Pretty much any two substitutions will work, but if we want to get rid of fractions and get some symmetry a good choice would be s=2 and s=-2 (symmetry comes from them being negations of each other, elimination of fraction comes from the fact that s^2 + 4 is divisible by 4 for these choices). This should give you two equations that you can combine to find B and C.
 
Im sorry but I don't follow
 
I solved it with coefficients! XD I compared the right and left side to the coefficient s

I got that 0 = C

now if i set s = 1

I get 1 = 5/4 + B
B = -1/4

Woot :)
 
Ready2GoXtr said:
I solved it with coefficients! XD I compared the right and left side to the coefficient s

I got that 0 = C

now if i set s = 1

I get 1 = 5/4 + B
B = -1/4

Woot :)

Yeah that's correct.

In case anyone was curious what I suggested was to make the two separate substitutions s=-2 and s=2 to get:
1 = 1/4(2^2 + 4) + (2B + C)2
1 = 1/4((-2)^2 + 4) + ((-2)B + C)(-2)
which can be written as:
-1 = 4B + 2C
-1 = 4B - 2C
Adding these we get:
B = -1/4
and then we get C = (4B + 1)/2 = 0.
 
Ready2GoXtr said:

Homework Statement


1/[s*(s^2 + 4)]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


1/[s*(s^2 + 4)] = A/(s) + (Bs + C)/(s^2 + 4)
=> 1 = A(s^2 + 4) + (Bs + C)s

s = 0

1 = A(0 + 4) + (B*0 + C)*0
A = 1/4


s = i

1 = A(i^2 + 4) + (Bi + C)i
1 = A(i^2 + 4) + Bi^2 + Ci
1 = (1/4)(-1 + 4) - B + Ci
1 = 3/4 - B - Ci
1/4 = -B - Ci

No clue how to do the rest,

Thanks!
Yes, 1=A(s^2 + 4) + (Bs + C)s and taking s= 0 gives 1= 4A so A= 1/4.

I am not sure why to take s= i. You can, instead, take s= 2i so that s^2+ 4= (2i)^2+ 4= -4+ 4= 0. That gives 1= A(0)+ (B(2i)+ C)(2i)= -4B+ 2Ci and then take s= -2i so that you have 1= -4B- 2Ci.

But, in fact, after you know that A= 1/4, you have 1= (1/4)(s^2+ 4)+ (Bs+ C)s and you really just need two equations to solve for B and C.

Yes, you certainly can multiply out the right side to get 1= (B+ 1/4)s^2+ Cs+ 1 and then argue that, because this is true for all s, the corresponding coefficients must be equal: B+ 1/4= 0 and C= 0. That was the way you found- excellent!

But again, you just need to get two equations. (You got the two equations B+ 1/4= 0 and C= 0.) And putting any two values for s will give two equations. Since s= 0 (my favorite value to put in!) has already been used, let's try s= 1 and s= -1 (almost as easy as 0). Setting s= 1 gives 1= (1/4)(1+ 4)+ (B(1)+ C)(1)= 5/4+ B+ C or B+ C= -1/4. Setting s= -1 gives 1= (1/4)(1+ 4)+ (B(-1)+ C)(-1)= 5/4+ B- C or B- C= -1/4. Adding the two equations eliminates C leaving 2B= -2/4 so B= -1/4. Of course, then, B+ C= -1/4+ C= -1/4 so C= 0.

Just think "I want to find two numbers. How can I get two equations?" Any method that gives you two equations is good.
 
you have A/s+(Bs+C)/(s^2+4). Multiplying each numerator by the other's denominator gives:
1=A(s^2+4)+(Bs+C)s=(A+B)s^2+Cs+4A so now what are your equations for the coefficients?
 

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