Maple Partially Factor Lengthy Expression w/ Maple - Positive Real Numbers

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The discussion centers on demonstrating the positivity of a complex algebraic expression involving positive real numbers a, b, c, x, y, and z, under specific conditions: a must be greater than b plus x, and c must be less than b plus y. The user seeks guidance on using Maple to partially factor the expression in terms of the variables a-b-x and c-b-y. Suggestions include attempting to divide the expression by these factors to simplify it, although there is skepticism about Maple's capability compared to Mathematica, which is often seen as superior for symbolic manipulation. The conversation highlights the challenges of handling lengthy symbolic expressions and the potential limitations of computational tools in achieving the desired simplification.
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I need to show that the following expression,
$$a^3b-a^3c+a^3z+a^3x+a^3y-a^2bx+a^2by+a^2cx-a^2cy-a^2zx+a^2zy-a^2x^2+a^2y^2-abcz-abcx-aczx-acx^2+b^2c^2+2bc^2x+c^2x^2-b^2c-2bcx-cx^2,$$

is positive

given that:

$1.$ $\ a,b,c,x,y,z$ are positive real numbers

$2. \ \ a>b+x$

$3. \ \ c<b+y$

I know a priori that the expression is indeed positive, but I do not know how to show it, or how to use Maple to do it?

Specifically, how can I use Maple to partially factorize the expression in terms of the expressions $a-b-x$ and $c-b-y$?

Thanks for any help.

This question has been crossposted here: inequality - In Maple, how can I partially factor a lengthy symbolic expression (23 terms in 6 variables)? - Mathematics Stack Exchange
 
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Interesting problem! I don't know much about Maple, but I can say that if $a-b-x$ or $c-b-y$ is a factor, then you should be able to divide your big expression by these factors, and get a simpler one. Even if it doesn't come out even, dividing the big expression by these two factors might help you out.

Mathematica might not be too helpful. If I FullSimplify the second division, I get
$$\frac{a^3 (-(b-c+x+y+z))+a^2 (x-y) (b-c+x+y+z)+a c (b+x) (x+z)-(c-1) c
(b+x)^2}{b-c+y}.$$

So, if Mathematica can't do it, I'm not certain Maple could do it, either. Mathematica is usually regarded by most as the best at symbolic manipulation.
 
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