Particle bouncing between walls

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The discussion revolves around a particle bouncing between moving walls, focusing on the effects of elastic collisions on the particle's velocity. Participants are exploring the implications of wall motion on the particle's behavior and the resulting calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to model the scenario by adding velocities based on the number of collisions with each wall, but questions the validity of this approach. Other participants inquire about the effects of elastic collisions with moving walls and whether the initial velocity should be adjusted in specific ways.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions made about the collisions and the reference frames involved. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding how to account for the motion of the walls and the resulting impact on the particle's velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the scenario under the assumption of elastic collisions and are discussing the implications of different reference frames, which may affect the analysis. There is a lack of consensus on how to properly account for the velocities involved.

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Homework Statement
A particle is situated between two walls that are closing in on each other. The particle is moving at 1.61 km/s in the -x direction, the left wall is moving at 1.01 km/s in the +x direction, and the right wall is moving at 2.51 km/s in the -x direction. What is the velocity of the particle after bouncing off of the left wall 10 times and the right wall 9 times?
Relevant Equations
Delta v = v final - v initial

Conservation of momentum

???
I thought it would be a good idea to pretend that the walls are stationary and that each time the particle hits a wall, it gets a velocity addition of the velocity of the wall it’s hitting. Using this I ended up at the formula

V = initial velocity of particle + n(velocity of left wall) + m(velocity of right wall)

where n and m are the number of collisions with the left and right walls, respectively.

Needless to say, this does not give me the right answer. Thoughts?
 
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Assuming that the collisions with the walls are elastic, what happens with the velocity of the ball after collision with a moving wall?
 
Orodruin said:
Assuming that the collisions with the walls are elastic, what happens with the velocity of the ball after collision with a moving wall?
Would you add twice the magnitude of the initial velocity to the initial velocity?
 
Josh0768 said:
Would you add twice the magnitude of the initial velocity to the initial velocity?
What happens in the rest frame of the wall? What does that mean for a different frame?
 

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