Particle Collisions: Proton Kinetic Energy + Carbon-12 Nucleus

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The problem involves a proton with a kinetic energy of 10 MeV scattering elastically from a stationary carbon-12 nucleus. The scenario requires applying conservation laws to analyze the collision in both the lab and center of mass reference frames.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of rest energy in a non-relativistic context and whether it is necessary for solving the problem. There is also a focus on using conservation of momentum and energy equations to find unknown velocities and angles related to the collision.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some suggest that conservation of momentum alone may suffice, while others emphasize the need for energy conservation. Multiple interpretations of the requirements for solving the problem are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption that the mass of carbon is approximately 12 times that of the proton and that the problem is set in a non-relativistic framework. There is also mention of the need for multiple equations to solve for the unknowns in the scattering scenario.

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Homework Statement



A proton with kinetic energy T1 = 10MeV scatters elastically from a stationary carbon - 12 nucleus. The scattered proton emerges at 30o to its initial direction.

a) Draw a sketch to represent the b4 and after conditions for this collision in the lab reference frame. Apply conservation of energy and momentum to find the kinetic energy of the scattered proton.

(Hint: to a good approximation you can assume the mass of carbon is 12x the mass of the proton. Use this as a mass scale to formulate your solution i.e. m2 = 12m1 etc. To further simplify, assume that the rest energy of the proton is mpc2 = 1000MeV. The kinematics in this problem are non relatavistic.)

b) What is the velocity of the centre of mass of this system?

c) same as a but find velocities in the centre of mass frame.

Homework Equations



conservation of nrg stuff...

The Attempt at a Solution



My only question is how does the rest energy come into play with this problem and how do i apply it. If it is non-relatavistic why do i even have rest energy? I have my momentum equations set up properly, just not my energy.

thanks
 
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It seems clear that you do not need to use relativity or the rest mass.
I don't see a need for energy equations either - conservation of momentum in two dimensions should give you all the answers.
 
you sure i don't need rest energy? Oh and i need energy because c needs it. And are you sure i can solve it all with only 1 velocity 1 mass and an angle? I haven't done scattering in a while, and this is just review.
 
Sorry, I forgot about the second angle. You have two unknown speeds and one unknown angle, so you need 3 equations. Two momentum equations and, yes, the conservation of kinetic energy.
 
okay thanks Delphi51, I'm trusting you man
 

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