Particle Entanglement and the Rarity-Tapster Experiment

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The discussion revolves around the Rarity-Tapster experiment, which demonstrates quantum entanglement through the interference pattern of photons. The original poster seeks to understand how the graph would differ if the photons behaved like Newtonian particles, expressing uncertainty about the concept of entanglement and its implications for the experiment's outcomes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to conceptualize the expected graph if photons were Newtonian particles, suggesting a linear relationship. They also seek a layman's explanation of quantum entanglement. Other participants question the nature of the distribution expected from Newtonian particles and discuss the implications of wave phenomena versus particle behavior.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the experiment and its implications for understanding quantum mechanics. Some have provided clarifications regarding the nature of interference and the distinction between quantum and Newtonian perspectives, while others continue to seek further understanding of entanglement.

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The original poster expresses a lack of familiarity with the experiment and the concept of quantum entanglement, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their understanding of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



With respect to the Rarity-Tapster experiment which shows the interference pattern of photons as support for the idea of quantum entanglement...what would the graph look like if these photons behaved like ordinary Newtonian particles?

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There is a graph that shows a wave with several peaks and troughs as a function of y-x vs. number of 2-particle impacts...which I am having trouble uploading =(

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if this is an experiment with which everyone in the physics community is familiar with; since I am myself new to physics but basically there is a source of 2 photons which are "entangled" (this concepts still eludes me a bit) and as each photon goes through a separate set of slits; it's impact is recorded on a screen. When this experiment is repeated numerous times and the impact points of photon 1 (x) and photon 2 (y) are graphed as the difference between y and x (y-x) then an interference pattern is apparent.

So...if these were Newtonian particles I think that because the two photons move in opposite directions, they would have impacted at the same distances below the halfway of the first screen and above the halfway of the second screen.So, x=y which would make for a straight diagonal line with a slope of 1 and a y-intercept of 0...correct?

Also, if it's not too much hassle, can someone just explain to me quantum entanglement in layman terms?

Thanks as always for all the help, it is incredible appreciated!
 
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I think you would expect a smeared out distribution without the apparent oscillations. I would think the envelope would be the same, but you would not see any waves.
 
Objects in the quantum world can occupy many quantum states, but
these are not fixed until they are actually observed - that is Schrödinger's
cat can be both dead and alive at the same time. Some Physicists are
even of the meaning that the entities are not even there until they are
observed! Entangled objects have a common origin - they are created
in close proximity and their quantum states become linked together.
Entanglement have been observed on much larger scales - even
with macromolecules. When these entangled objects separate -
that is the photons travel off into different directions - we find that if one
of them is observed the other immediately also falls into its corresponding
quantum states. The problem comes with the term - observed. What does
it mean "when the particle is observed" ? Here consciousness comes into
play. It seems the objects are only there when they are observed. This is
where Einstein objected "I believe the moon is there even if no one is looking."
The quantum world is indeed strange! I entertain the idea that these objects
exist on a "different plane" and we connect through our consciousness to them.
It seems that your lecturer is expecting much more detailed knowledge from
you though since such a specific experiment is mentioned.
 
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Hello,

Thanks for the reply and the explanation. It makes a lot more sense to me now although it's still kind of "spooky". So, in terms of the appearance of the graph; would the distribution appear "smeared" or spread across and not show an interference pattern because the photons wouldn't be "entangled" from a Newtonian perspective...would they show an interference pattern if both photons were hitting the same screen?
 
Interference is a wave phenomena and cannot be explained by Newtonian
type of particles. The Newtonian term is included to emphazise that just
the particle aspect is present because today we know from a quantum
mechanical perspective that even particles, like electrons, exhibit a wave
nature as is evident from a double slit experiment.
 

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